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    oh great, one of these threads. Don't you guys ever get tired of this shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabe View Post
    oh great, one of these threads. Don't you guys ever get tired of this shit?
    I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to, but it is natural for "Relations of Conflict" to coincide with typical stories of mutual disgust.

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    ... Why ESFJs can be so troublesome?
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    Being that we're both apparently INTP, yes. But ESFJs feel the same way about us.

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    I don't know how I can be 'attacking' an ESFJ the same way they 'attack' me. Or is just that not attacking them makes them feel attacked?
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    Just swooping in to clarify- I like my sister, I like ESFJs, I like people (that last one is a slight exageration) and I just wondered the best way to approach her about this. To be perfectly frank given she's 18 and a bit self-centred I very much doubt her problems have anything to do with her type- my best friend is an ESFJ who is a lot more mature and I love her to bits- but I was wondering the best way of getting through to her that's all.

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    Post 16, in other words: "She's my sister, so I should like her. But I hate her."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poussin View Post
    Just swooping in to clarify- I like my sister, I like ESFJs, I like people (that last one is a slight exageration) and I just wondered the best way to approach her about this. To be perfectly frank given she's 18 and a bit self-centred I very much doubt her problems have anything to do with her type- my best friend is an ESFJ who is a lot more mature and I love her to bits- but I was wondering the best way of getting through to her that's all.
    Well, be more specific about what the problems are. All you've said was "basic lack of consideration for other people." Can you give some specific examples of how she does this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kora View Post
    I don't know how I can be 'attacking' an ESFJ the same way they 'attack' me. Or is just that not attacking them makes them feel attacked?
    'Tis merely existing in the same Universe how INTPs and ESFJs attack each other.

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    She's tends, rather than checking if its okay for her to go places with my parents etc (Which I feel she should do given she expects to both be brought there and given money for whatever she's doing) to come in and announce she's going there and that she wants to leave in ten minutes. If requested to wash up after dinner she flatly refuses and stalks off. Generally her aggro is not with me, but the atmosphere afterwards is not pleasant and its a kind of tension that I can't stand. I suspect it's a question of maturity but as I didn't display my immaturity in that way, I don't really understand it. For me she could make her life so much easier by a few steps but she doesn't see it.

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