Somewhat related to the thread topic, I've found in Keirsey's description of SJs some "good" and "bad" ways of describing this "obligation."
Some phrases I identified the most with:
"Desire to be useful to others"--which he connected with a need to belong
"If I don't do it, who will?"
"Respect and rewards must be earned through hard work"
Also, what is he saying here? "Here is no freeloader urging his dependency upon the donor as if it were his god-given right. Dependency, for the SJ, is neither a legitimate condition nor desire. The SJ feels guilty for his dependency as if negligent of his obligations..."
Is he saying that SJs feel guilty when relying on someone else, because they feel like they're putting a burden on that someone else?
And the OP:
To tell you the truth, most of those things I've learned to do because people I respect have implied or insisted that I should do them. And so I've done them at first for the purpose of getting along with that person, and to see why they valued doing it, plus like I said I generally trust them. Sometimes, I resist doing it at first, though, so it might be with a little bit of resentment in the beginning. But then again, isn't that the way an SJ might be inclined to react?Originally Posted by substitute