User Tag List

First 12

Results 11 to 13 of 13

  1. #11
    an abyss of Nothingness Arctic Hysteria's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    MBTI
    IxFP
    Enneagram
    4w5 sp/sx
    Socionics
    EII Fi
    Posts
    670

    Default

    I'm happy that my mum is very intuitive ESFJ. I think an ESTJ mum can only be my nurturer, not my confidant or best friend.
    .
    | | | If it is god who makes man, this is the devil finishing touches | | |
    .

  2. #12
    this is my winter song EJCC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    MBTI
    ESTJ
    Enneagram
    173 so/sx
    Posts
    18,439

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Qwan View Post
    Well, she likes everything very tidy, for starters, and she has a good business mind. Often times she will scold me for being either overly emotional or for not caring enough about this or that and how I'll never make it without her. She assumes that since my moral code is more streamlined, more lenient, and more progressive than hers, that I must be amoral. She will scold me for not being organized and not caring enough about my image (which I do care, just not much about being traditional). She was really pushing for me to become active in the the JW mind control group, which was the main way she was mentioned on this forum previously, but she has since eased off. I used to try to point out the goofy logical paradoxes and horrific ethical implications of religion in general, but especially that group, but that caused more chaos than it was worth. The goofy sensetard mistakes I make make her VERY angry, too. She generally gives good advice, and I generally follow her advice, unless it contridicts a strongly held value (I've trimmed back on those with age). She also gets mad when I "overthink" things yet still somehow don't "think it through." She also claims I don't see the big picture, though I obviously do. We are doing better overall in our relationship with her controlling her temper better and me doing more to serve her.

    That's all I can think of.
    She sounds like the sort of person who would be equally critical of just about everyone, no matter how much they liked her or she liked them.

    IME being of (apparently) the same type as her, the only way she'll leave you alone re: your beliefs is if either 1) she begins to respect your beliefs, or 2) she learns that there's no point in trying to convert you to the "right path", because you're unlikely to budge. And it sounds like she's well on her way to #2 already, which is good. As for the rest of her critical behaviors, she needs to change her standards, and realize what can be changed vs. what's an inherent part of your personality. Ideally, she also needs to see the strengths that correspond with your perceived weaknesses. I'm not sure how much of this is something you can help her with.

    In you all's everyday life -- not in conversations about JW stuff or other serious ethical things -- how easy is she to reason with?
    ~ g e t f e s t i v e ! ~


    EJCC: "The Big Questions in my life right now: 1) What am I willing to live with? 2) What do I have to live with? 3) What can I change for the better?"
    Coriolis: "Is that the ESTJ Serenity Prayer?"



    ESTJ - LSE - ESTj (mbti/socionics)
    1w2/7w6/3w4 so/sx (enneagram)
    want to ask me something? go for it!

  3. #13
    The Dark Lord The Wailing Specter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    MBTI
    ENFP
    Enneagram
    6w7 sp/so
    Socionics
    ENFP Ne
    Posts
    3,267

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    She sounds like the sort of person who would be equally critical of just about everyone, no matter how much they liked her or she liked them.

    IME being of (apparently) the same type as her, the only way she'll leave you alone re: your beliefs is if either 1) she begins to respect your beliefs, or 2) she learns that there's no point in trying to convert you to the "right path", because you're unlikely to budge. And it sounds like she's well on her way to #2 already, which is good. As for the rest of her critical behaviors, she needs to change her standards, and realize what can be changed vs. what's an inherent part of your personality. Ideally, she also needs to see the strengths that correspond with your perceived weaknesses. I'm not sure how much of this is something you can help her with.

    In you all's everyday life -- not in conversations about JW stuff or other serious ethical things -- how easy is she to reason with?
    She is ok, she still will insist her way is the best way, and it would be stupid to do it any other way because her way works. I have seen her try new things and creatively problem solve, but only if her usual methods fail for some reason. I know that if she wants something, she gets it as a rule. Sometimes I can win her over on everyday things, but she usually either wins or digs in her heels because she is convinced her way is the best way.
    Enneagram: 6w7 (phobic) > 2w1 > 9w1
    Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
    Holland Code: AIS
    Date of Birth: March 15, 1996
    Gender: Male
    Political Stance: Libertarian Liberal (Arizona School/Strong BHL)
    ATHEIST UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST HUMANIST
    and
    SCIENCE ENTHUSIAST


    I say this as a reminder to myself, but this goes for everyone:

    You can achieve anything you set your mind to, and you are limited only by how dedicated you are to succeed!

    -Magic Qwan

Similar Threads

  1. Finally got around to making a video...
    By RisaMoccasin in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 10-25-2012, 01:37 PM
  2. My mothers MBTI type is
    By Mr. Sherlock Holmes in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 51
    Last Post: 09-28-2010, 06:48 PM
  3. [MBTItm] Trying to type my mother.
    By corey_vann in forum The SJ Guardhouse (ESFJ, ISFJ, ESTJ, ISTJ)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-06-2009, 01:33 PM
  4. Trying to type my mother.
    By corey_vann in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-05-2009, 05:54 PM
  5. OMG you've got to try this
    By paperoceans in forum The Bonfire
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 11-23-2009, 12:55 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO