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    Quote Originally Posted by Showbread View Post
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    What do ESFJs or at least this particular ESFJ want out of life ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard View Post
    It definitely can be Fe, no doubt about it.
    Harmonizing by force, it is possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinclair View Post
    This brings up a question I've had about Fe for a while now. Bear with me 'cause I'm barely (hah) awake.

    What are the different ways for Fe to manifest? Maybe in a good, bad, and ugly kind of way? I'm used to seeing the harmonizing descriptions and while I can recall instances of my own behavior matching that, by and large I feel like my Fe is somethign more...adaptive? As in, trying to integrate but no so much with the desire to bring unity to a group and more about feeling things out and trying to get a sense of the kind of people I'm dealing with so I can better react to them, I guess?

    Anyway, i'm wondering if these are just different forms of Fe? Or is it the difference between a clear Fe lead and one filtered through two other functions? Or maybe I'm mixing up Fe with Ne or Se a little bit.

    ESFJs (and others for whom it applies), is there a pattern to how your Fe manifests? What influences, if any, do you think your supporting functions have on it?


    @Sinclair Fe is really hard to pin down, it's as adaptive as the sentiments of people it tries to gauge constantly, it has to be. For me, Si is the governor, any rules or patterns of my behavior would come from that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post


    @Sinclair Fe is really hard to pin down, it's as adaptive as the sentiments of people it tries to gauge constantly, it has to be.


    This really depends on who you are.
    I for example have almost no Fe in me and for that reason I have quite easy time noticing it since for me everything is much more black and white when it comes to relations with other people.

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    from an ESFJ pov: why are people rarely happy with simply good enough?
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    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Any advice for getting along with people better, being nice, or how to improve social skills? Not sure if there's even a difference between those things. Also, what are some good ideas to start conversations with people you've never met before? This stuff might have been asked before, but there's 27 pages already so I wasn't up for checking every last one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    from an ESFJ pov: why are people rarely happy with simply good enough?
    I am often unhappy with "good enough" if I know that I can do better. It's like no matter how good what I've accomplished/have is, if I see room for improvement, especially within my control, I won't be content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showbread View Post
    I am often unhappy with "good enough" if I know that I can do better. It's like no matter how good what I've accomplished/have is, if I see room for improvement, especially within my control, I won't be content.
    but what if better and your ability to do that is a lie? do you feel worse after?


    p.s. sorry to you and @EJCC i've been compared to a member here and i've started making a list on how we are not the same person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    but what if better and your ability to do that is a lie? do you feel worse after?


    p.s. sorry to you and @EJCC i've been compared to a member here and i've started making a list on how we are not the same person.
    What do you mean by "a lie," exactly? Like unattainable? Or an idealized goal that does not actually exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showbread View Post
    What do you mean by "a lie," exactly? Like unattainable? Or an idealized goal that does not actually exist?
    yes. to both unattaibale and does not actually exist. which is the same thing. pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    yes. to both unattaibale and does not actually exist. which is the same thing. pretty much.
    Um, I suppose I would be pretty frustrated. I think I do this to myself at times though. I have ideals in my head for what I want my behavior or performance to look like that are practically impossible, but for some reason I decide to set the standard that high anyways.
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