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    What are the differences between these two types?

    I would prefer responses that delve a little deeper than stating how one is more organized or structured. For an ISFP, I'm actually quite organized. I like keeping the house clean. So forth. And I've known an ISFJ who was regularly late for work.

    So how does one who use Si/Fe differ from one who uses Fi/Se?
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    To me it seems there is a huge difference between Se and Si... Se flows through the moment, noticing important concrete elements, understanding where the most powerful paths of action are, seeing where the potential energy lies. Si is observant and present-attuned but it's more like gathering, collecting, keeping. Se flows while Si stays put and adds to its collection, constantly cross-referencing the gathered and the present.

    And then Fe and Fi... Fe is much more attuned to the "in betweens", to the needs of the other person, to the interpersonal environment. Fi is much more attuned to inner processes and to the internal landscapes of other people.

    The energies are different... ISFP is more relaxed and empathetic while ISFJ is more grounded and conscientious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Fi is much more attuned to inner processes and to the internal landscapes of other people.
    Other people? I was always under the impression that it was more self-referential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    Other people? I was always under the impression that it was more self-referential.
    Oh, definitely!

    But I think because of that, Fi users tend to account more for other people's inner workings - being more aware of the internal process, nuance in emotion, others wanting or needing space and time, and so on. Fi tends to be live and let live, and I think part of that is being sort of self-obsessive but the other part of that is not wanting to intrude upon others' privacy and freedom, either.

    Like the way Fi users will often talk about themselves and not do much prompting of others: one, because it's expected that others will chime in about themselves if and when they feeling like sharing, instead of putting others on the spot if they don't feel like sharing, and two, sharing in a self-referential way because one's only real basis for knowledge is oneself, and it'd be false to try speak for someone else's experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Fi tends to be live and let live...the other part of that is not wanting to intrude upon others' privacy and freedom, either.
    So you're saying that Fi is basically Canada in a function?



    All joking aside, I can relate to most of this in both paragraphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    So you're saying that Fi is basically Canada in a function?



    All joking aside, I can relate to most of this in both paragraphs.

    Lol! That's a great metaphor!

    Anyway, cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairdoug View Post
    Other people? I was always under the impression that it was more self-referential.
    That's such a common misconception. We're interested in someone's core personality. Their motivations and priorities. How it relates to them without any other influences.

    It's not as tho we don't care about other people that we only care about ourself. It's what's important to me... Does such and such jive with my personal belief system?? What is this persons believe system? Who are they when no one is looking??
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    Oh, definitely!

    But I think because of that, Fi users tend to account more for other people's inner workings - being more aware of the internal process, nuance in emotion, others wanting or needing space and time, and so on. Fi tends to be live and let live, and I think part of that is being sort of self-obsessive but the other part of that is not wanting to intrude upon others' privacy and freedom, either.

    Like the way Fi users will often talk about themselves and not do much prompting of others: one, because it's expected that others will chime in about themselves if and when they feeling like sharing, instead of putting others on the spot if they don't feel like sharing, and two, sharing in a self-referential way because one's only real basis for knowledge is oneself, and it'd be false to try speak for someone else's experience.
    That's perfect and I concur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyAnnaJoan View Post
    What are the differences between these two types?

    I would prefer responses that delve a little deeper than stating how one is more organized or structured. For an ISFP, I'm actually quite organized. I like keeping the house clean. So forth. And I've known an ISFJ who was regularly late for work.

    So how does one who use Si/Fe differ from one who uses Fi/Se?
    ISFP's are type A (judging function dominant)
    ISFJ's are type B (Perception function dominant)



    ISFP's are rather sadististic or masochistic at times, as they have that Se aggression.
    ISFJ's are very maternal and caring.

    ISFP's are extremely emotionally intense and prone to bouts of powerful melancholy (See band: Type O-Negative)
    ISFJ's are very lighthearted, and can be rather eccentric and ENTP-like in their behavior. Quirkey and goofy. (see band: lindsay sterling)

    ISFP's are rather judgemental, and can sometimes come off as self righteous (Dominant Fi).
    ISFJ's are not judgemental at all, and are rather conflict avoidant.

    ISFJ's are not threatened by dynamic social groups that always change.
    ISFP's often have very rigid and solid group of friends that they do not want to change.

    ISFP's can be very paranoid and defensive, and aggressive.
    ISFJ's are often times very unaggressive and not very defensive.

    Both will give you a lot of help if you ask for it.
    both can be very caring toward their loved ones.
    both can be very physically active
    both can be quiet and closed off

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