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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    I think it's one of the most heavily stereotyped types, and that stereotype is widely disliked. The same is true for ESFJ.
    Yes, true. And it's really unfair for them, just because those two types happens to be the least represented in the online world.

    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    As for being disliked in real life, I doubt it. Both of those types seem better appreciated IRL than online - no surprise, since the practical realms belong to the Ss.
    I doubt it too. They're one of the most charming people around, and they're really down-to-earth despite being labeled sometimes as "control freaks". I bet in real life, they get the most number of "Thank you" from people around them.

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    INFPs are the most well liked? I thought everyone wanted to be an INFJ and worshiped INTPs on the Internet.

    I thought people made fun of INFPs, and thought ESFPs were all dumb whores.

    Last time I checked, ESTJs were well-respected assholes.

    I thought ESFJs were the most hated, honestly. Everyone on-line seems to blame some ESFJ bitch for ruining their life. This begins to tell you how many people on line are heterosexual males who believe themselves to be INTx.

    People love to despise me on Type C though, so I think ESFPs are running a close second, being that many people here believe me to be ESFP.

    I think ExTJs probably come in third. There is that whole idea that Te doms are EEEEVIL.

    What made you think that INFPs were the most liked type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porsche View Post
    Yes, true. And it's really unfair for them, just because those two types happens to be the least represented in the online world.


    I doubt it too. They're one of the most charming people around, and they're really down-to-earth despite being labeled sometimes as "control freaks". I bet in real life, they get the most number of "Thank you" from people around them.
    No they're the least represented on on-line forums, not the least represented in the on-line world.

    I frankly think that ESFJs, ENFJs, ESTJs, and ENTJs spend a very spare and brief amount of time on-line, by virtue of being Je doms, not because of being Sensors.

    I think Fe doms are all really concerned with IRL people and Te doms are very concerned with goals.

    I think a lot of "ENTJs" on the Internets are ESTPs or ENTPs, but more likely ESTPs than ENTPs, because ESTPs and ENTJs have the same "powerful, manly, extroverted, mover-and-shaker" stereotype thingy going on, but on personality forums, being ENTJ is more PRESTIGIOUS!!!111

    Apparently they also get mixed up because of that whole tertiary Se business.

    I honestly think there are a HUGE amount of SPs and ISxJs on-line, contrary to popular belief. Se doms and Si doms have no reason to not be here, they're being fully entertained, and there's plenty of activity to engage with on-line, you can even multi-task with music, videos, films, text convos with friends/lovers, as well as forum discussions and factual research. Let us not forget all of the pretty pictures. So many sights and sounds! So many facts and opinions! Why the fuck wouldn't sensing dominants be on-line? Jesus wept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Probably not, but ESFJ is a good bet.

    It works this way:

    Types most people think they are: INXPs

    Types most people love to idealize: INXJs

    Type people love to hate: ESFJ

    Type people love to snub: ESFP
    You left out entp. Everyone's favorite wacky side character....

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    In my experience and I have to use experience because I don't have anything else for this matter; ESTJ's like any other type can be great or terrible.

    This is not appease people nor an attempt to avoid offence, really it's just that I have an ESTJ co-worker and for the most part I find her pretty bad ass and we have a great working relationship.

    I rely on her to plan out the system of put-away and find the best gaps with her ridiculously good memory of the stock room, (which has less to do with Si which isn't really that good at practical memory despite peoples opinions to the contrary and more to do with her time spent there I would say), and she relies on me to put it away quickly, efficiently and most importantly: To lighten the mood.

    The best part about her is she is fairly well developed as a person. So if I challenge her idea of or plan of where something should go, she will consider it and concede if my idea is shown to be better, none of that 'it's the rulz!!' business.

    She simply weighs the odds like a true Te dom. I'm probably the only person there though that doesn't find her manner overbearing and brusque.

    Come to think of it, ive had more problems with TP's and FP's than TJ's. FJ's are more hit and miss for me, essentially marmite; I either love or hate them.
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    What's to like? They're obnoxious cunts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    What's to like? They're obnoxious cunts.
    There are only so many ways someone can be a cunt though. I don't think the conflict pops up enough.

    For example, I know an ESTJ who has this "need" to sort of be in charge of group outings (like a camping trip or something), but in my mind, this is stuff I'd never care about anyways. I don't give a shit about organizing an ice chest, or the best parking spots, or where to set up a tent. Y'know.. whatever. More time for me to do something else. In the end, he makes things convenient for everyone anyways, where they start thinking "I'm glad he thought of that.." If it came to a professional setting, I'm sure it wouldn't be much different.

    It's different when I was a kid and I dealt with STJ cops or coaches.. but that's a whole other power dynamic.

    The guy above occasionally does annoying things, but I just laugh at them. Like we could be driving past a kid with long "hipster" hair, and he goes off on some rant about "normalcy" that some SJs do. How kids should look a certain way, etc.. I think it's absurd, but write it off as a quirk. It's not like he's going to actually do anything.

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    In terms of the ESTJ type I find them to be either too nice or too dickish. I've met some really nice ESTJ'S and they will use their Te toward helping people out.

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    My brother is ESTJ; I have an ambiguous feeling towards him, which is probably due to low Fi. He doesn't seem to have any interests beyond what's trending (now Yugioh is trending again, so he watches it; a while ago, it was some other thing, and before that, another thing) - he doesn't seem to have a sense of divine mission, so to speak. Life is life, and that's that. I think ISTJs (like my father) tend to have some sort of idea about what is honourable, but that's lacking in my brother - he just plays by the rules, not by any - however traditional - idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesthete View Post
    My brother is ESTJ; I have an ambiguous feeling towards him, which is probably due to low Fi. He doesn't seem to have any interests beyond what's trending (now Yugioh is trending again, so he watches it; a while ago, it was some other thing, and before that, another thing) - he doesn't seem to have a sense of divine mission, so to speak. Life is life, and that's that. I think ISTJs (like my father) tend to have some sort of idea about what is honourable, but that's lacking in my brother - he just plays by the rules, not by any - however traditional - idea.
    You sure he isn't ESP? Se doms are more keen to the nature of trends or following changes. Si is more constant.

    Then again, "divine mission" is a bit over most people's heads. Especially when it comes to what you watch on tv.

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