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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Aww! When I'm an ESTJ mom, I'd LOVE to have nice NF daughters like you and Jaye
    I already feel jealous of your future babies! You'd be a kick-ass mom!

    I would take down an entire army for my mother. I feel honored to know her and to love her, in spite of our early difficulties. She's super-smart, really witty, has a great sense of humor (sometimes I feel like I'm living with Jerry Stiller lol), and back in the day, she was a slamming dresser. Her sense of style definitely made an impression on us as kids. As we got older, we would wear some of her sweaters and vintage jewelry. I remember a pair of real alligator pumps she had - they were epic. She'd bought them in the 1960s. They were just THAT MUCH too small for me, and I coulda cried a river, they were so slick and sassy.

    More importantly, MOST importantly, she also gave me permission, even as a truly traditional lady, to fight back, to stand up for myself, even if that meant taking down the entire establishment in the process. She believed - believes- in me that completely. She told me and sis that she loved and admired our sense of self, and to never let anyone step on us.

    Sis and I would absolutely stop bullets in mid-air for her. Nobody messes with our mother.

    I actually like ESTJs quite a lot. I find them funny and caring while being tough and take-charge. I admire their Te because I have NONE of it. I admire their ability to express themselves while being concise and interesting (like your travel blog! I really enjoyed that!).

    I also think they're adorable when they're in love. lol It's like watching a great queen or king get a little goofy. I watched one ESTJ fall for an ISFP, and it just hit my heart like a train. It was beautiful to me.
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    My mommy is an ESFJ and she always has my back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    the real topic here should be "you know an STJ loves you when...". knowing an when SFJ (or FJ at all for that matter) loves you is obvious
    Kinda... Except that Haven's quote is pretty true of ESFJs (and ENFJs too ime):
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Dang, I'm not sure what I should write here.

    I mean, I always do nice things for people and I always listen, I'm just not sure when I cross into "love" territory.
    This actually reflects pretty well, why I tend to be confused by my ExFJ friends -- if they're so nice to everyone, how do you know that you're different? (It's easier to tell with IxFJ friends; they're significantly more selective about who they act motherly towards, than ENFJs are.)
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    Coriolis: "Is that the ESTJ Serenity Prayer?"



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    They return your library books.

    They give you hand rubs.

    They manage your Netflix queue so that you get the movies that you want when you want them and so you don't lose the little sleeve the movie comes in and so you don't scratch the DVD with your sensotardness.


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    they buy huge quantities of things they know you like (or at least the ESFJ dad).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    they buy huge quantities of things they know you like (or at least the ESFJ dad).
    This is true.

    (Although my INTP dad has been known to do similar things. I love him and his well-developed Fe My INFJ mom has been a great influence on him that way!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glycerine View Post
    they buy huge quantities of things they know you like (or at least the ESFJ dad).
    So true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    they become students of your personal history.
    So true~

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    To extend this - how do you best show an SJ that you love and care about them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    "if you were cold and hungry I'd feed you and give you a place to sleep" or "you have a home at my home always" or "you are family to me/us."

    They also may make self-sacrifices like they know you need this or that from them, and they will make it a point to take the time to do it, just for you.
    I think 'knowing' that our partners would also be willing to make small sacrifices should it come down to things is definitely a big love statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neworder View Post
    How about when they tell you or is that too easy?
    Personally i think not.

    The ex XSTJ was pretty damn, no nonsense, clear.
    and i quote...

    "I love you, i consider you my wife, we shall always be together"

    He was wrong though.
    "We knew he was someone who had a tragic flaw, that's where his greatness came from"

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelenOfTroy View Post
    Personally i think not.

    The ex XSTJ was pretty damn, no nonsense, clear.
    and i quote...

    "I love you, i consider you my wife, we shall always be together"

    He was wrong though.
    ..."I consider you my wife"? Seriously?

    If that was his reasoning behind saying that he loved you -- i.e. I love you because you're married to me -- then I guess he didn't know what love was.
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