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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    To extend this - how do you best show an SJ that you love and care about them?
    Put dishes in the dishwasher and take out the garbage. Apparently.

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    I'm pretty sure my dad loved me too, but damn, the divorce just ate him up inside and turned him into a giant asshole. I wish someone would have slapped the crazy out of him in those 10 years of hell. There are more important things in life than loyalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    You are a serious downer, dude. Love isn't that hard, just say it. It feels good to say.
    I love my dad, and sometimes it kills me that the best I can say is a "take care of yourself" to him. But I do show him my love in other ways, like buying him dinner or spending time just chatting with him.

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    @Haven

    first of all, saying I love you freely is cultural as well as type related. IxTJ are unlikely to gush with such statements unless its a particularly serious vow to them, even if they can say it more easily than @soppixo can. American cultural Fe is gushy I love you, and some would argue some people say it TOO easily. I think there's a balance, I am able to say I love you, but I dont presume its easy or desirable for everyone, and I even dont necessarily trust people who say they love me without showing me that its true.

    I never said blind loyalty is all there is, yet what Im trying to explain is that is simply how some people show love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Put dishes in the dishwasher and take out the garbage. Apparently.
    I had an SJ express to me once that he simply wished his family would realize how much he did for them around the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soppixo View Post
    The only beings in this world whom I can openly say "I love you" to are my dogs. I don't really understand why I have this big hang up about using the l-words when it comes to humans, I can't even bring myself to say it to my dad in text.

    The last person I can remember saying it to is my mom, but she was a real messed up Feeler and pretty much conditioned me into using F as a coping mechanism to try and make sense of her mood swings.
    I agree with the idea that scarcity, as they say in economics, makes it valuable. Some people just don't see it that way, but I just can't seem to see it the other way, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    There are more important things in life than loyalty.
    As someone who has had his loyalty taken for granted or taken advantage of more than a few times, I hear ya brother.

    That all being said, ISTJs may or may not be wise in the Path of Snugglies....but that just means we shall have to teach these young Padawans the Way of the Snuggles, if they are so interested

    On a more serious note, ISTJs can definitely be warm and huggy-kisses, it just requires the right environment to make them feel comfortable enough to do, something of which I understand very well
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    To extend this - how do you best show an SJ that you love and care about them?
    I don't mean to sound evasive when I say this but it really does depend on the specific SJ and their love language.

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    If I do something like make you donuts and show up at your door out of the blue to give them to you, that means I care.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilkRoad View Post
    To extend this - how do you best show an SJ that you love and care about them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I don't mean to sound evasive when I say this but it really does depend on the specific SJ and their love language.
    Yes, and also if it is a romantic relationship or not.
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