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    Default How can I survive my ISTJ boss?

    Hi everybody!

    I only just heard about this personality typing thing from a friend last night, and I must admit, I find it very illuminating. I heard about it thanks to a friend to whom I was speaking about my work situation (which could be better – in particular my boss) and he used my mobile phone to find a personality profile online and asked me to read it. It sounded exactly like my boss, and it was the profile of an ISTJ.

    He then asked me a question or two, and asked me to read another profile that he got up on my phone. It sounded exactly like me. It was the profile of an ENFP.

    So here’s the problem: I work for an incredibly difficult person. Based purely on personality profiles as shown to me by my friend yesterday, I understand that there’s a basic difference between the way we see the world, but two other people work for Boss full time, and one part-time, and the full-timers at least do not find her easy to work for, either (the other person works in an adjacent office and therefore manages to avoid much of the fall-out that occurs). I was wondering if you could offer any advice as to how to navigate working with this Boss, and to avoid the nuclear fall-out for the rest of the time?

    Examples of my boss’s behaviour:

    • SHOUTING AT PEOPLE LOTS FOR NO REAL REASON AND BEHAVING IN AN UNPLEASANT AND UNNECESSARILY AGGRESSIVE MANNER WHEN DISPLEASED WITH THE TINIEST THING;

    • Throwing HUGE temper tantrums over small things, stomping around the office and slamming the same file down on the desk repeatedly between my colleague and I, a bit like an overgrown toddle throwing a tantrum;

    • OCD-like behaviour…I’m an adult…I leave my desk set up tidily but in the best order for me to get straight back down to work the second I come back from lunch, I do not appreciate finding that it has been ‘tidied’ in my absence…I can do that myself when required, thank you very much;

    • Micromanaging us all – particularly me as the newbie - to death. Then getting incredibly angry when, as my concentration has been interrupted from the task I have been doing, I do not tell Boss a figure with the currency attached to it when Boss asks, due to the fact I have been interrupted and my head is half elsewhere;

    • Shouting at one of the other people who works there, who then replies a little in kind, to the point where I will be on the telephone with a client/supplier and have to put the call on hold as neither I nor my interlocutor can hear each other, so I have to put the call on hold and ask them to keep it down;

    • Never giving us any praise in the slightest, just to give us an idea that we are working in the right direction (perhaps not such a concern for the others, rather me, as I’m quite new and it’s my first time working in this industry), only criticising the slightest mistake we make more viciously than proportional to the size of the mistake;

    • Possibly bugging the office – not the phones, or monitoring the computer usage, but I mean actually bugging the office to listen to our general chit-chat when Boss is not there (all of the full-timers have reason to think this might have been done due to an incident in the last few weeks, but it’s just a suspicion – there’s no proof …yet…);

    I have been in this new job for a few months – but hopefully not many more – and I need to find a way to navigate my way through so that when I leave I get a good reference. I’m also worried about the potential for her to ‘take me into the other office for a talking to’ regarding the issue with the figures plus currency as I have accidentally done that more than once, and Boss is really annoyed about it. I try really hard not to do it, but it is going to take a bit of time to get it into my head as I think it’s a habit I have, and habits take a while to break, and I think that Boss’s idea of ‘taking me into the other office for a talking to’ will essentially be Boss screaming at me for 15 minutes or so, and there is literally NO WAY I am going to take that…I will walk out of the office first.

    So, any tips?!

    Thanks in advance!

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    What made you come here and not some kind of forum about abusive bosses? I just think problem is beyond the scope of the MBTI.

    I mean, what if I came here and said "help I'm going to be murdered by an ENTJ, what should I do?" or "My ESFJ stepmom just chained me up in the basement, how do I escape?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    What made you come here and not some kind of forum about abusive bosses? I just think problem is beyond the scope of the MBTI.

    I mean, what if I came here and said "help I'm going to be murdered by an ENTJ, what should I do?" or "My ESFJ stepmom just chained me up in the basement, how do I escape?"
    Lol - you're right! I think I just got excited at the idea that maybe this new thing I learned about could somehow help me deal with an otherwise very difficult situation and thought I would try to gain some insight as to what I could do to help myself.

    At least you saying 'I think [the] problem is beyond the scope of the MBTI' makes me remember that it's totally irrational, unreasonable behaviour and that's it's not me having unrealistic expectations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    What made you come here and not some kind of forum about abusive bosses? I just think problem is beyond the scope of the MBTI.

    I mean, what if I came here and said "help I'm going to be murdered by an ENTJ, what should I do?" or "My ESFJ stepmom just chained me up in the basement, how do I escape?"
    Majority of questions here are pretty much beyond the scope of MBTI. What does it matter to you if this person wants to start a thread here and ask for advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    What a pointless and stupid post.

    Majority of questions here are pretty much beyond the scope of MBTI. What does it matter to you if this person wants to start a thread here and ask for advice?
    I gave her advice. I'm sorry you don't approve. There's no need to start throwing around insults now.
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    I suppose I could edit the insult out.

    *edits*

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    Shouting and throwing tantrums is not an ISTJ trait, just FYI. Even by Keirsey standards, SPs are most likely to impulsively lose their temper then get over it quickly (anywhere from five minutes to a couple of days, lol) ...so if your boss is losing his temper, it's not because he's ISTJ. I know an ISTJ who prides himself on being stubbornly quiet when people are yelling, and only loses his shit occasionally ...very occasionally ...but he's also an E9.

    I would think a Te dom (ExTJ) would be more likely to micromanage then flip out or seem overly aggressive. Or possibly an ESxP.

    If he's really an ISTJ, and he really has OCD, then that's why, and he can't help it, and probably needs help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    What made you come here and not some kind of forum about abusive bosses? I just think problem is beyond the scope of the MBTI.

    I mean, what if I came here and said "help I'm going to be murdered by an ENTJ, what should I do?" or "My ESFJ stepmom just chained me up in the basement, how do I escape?"
    I think your post is excellent. Gold star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice View Post
    Majority of questions here are pretty much beyond the scope of MBTI. What does it matter to you if this person wants to start a thread here and ask for advice?
    Because they're incorrectly making it about being ISTJ and the person themselves thinking they're ENFP. This is not about that, s/he's probably mistyped him, and even if s/he has typed him correctly, he clearly has issues that have nothing to do with MBTI if he constantly screams at people and is bugging their office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Because they're incorrectly making it about being ISTJ and the person themselves thinking they're ENFP. This is not about that, s/he's probably mistyped him, and even if s/he has typed him correctly, he clearly has issues that have nothing to do with MBTI if he constantly screams at people and is bugging their office.
    Yeah I'm aware of all that, I was just sTrolling by.


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