Regarding the second-to-last sentence: Could you elaborate? What do you mean by "comfort needs"?
For SJs, I wouldn't say they're attracted to boring things, but they're attracted to familiar things, and to echoMDP2525 they seem immune to becoming bored while doing "the things that must be done." Honestly it seems like a super power to me.
I have a few hobbies like this. But I have to keep reassuring myself -- it's useful because it relaxes you, it's useful because you'd be miserable without a creative outlet.I don't think I relate so much to necessarily finding things interesting because they are useful, though. There are some useful things that are pretty dull. Like tax returns. if something manages to be both useful and interesting, that's fantastic. In a way, if something is interesting to me, it will always be somehow useful. Because it makes me happy, it relaxes me, it stimulates me, etc.
This is true. I see it a lot, primarily in Thinkers, when they hang out with people they don't know very well. (This includes myself, and I feel bad sometimes about that "using" attitude towards my circle of friendly acquaintances, i.e. I hang out with them because they're entertaining and interesting but not for any deeper reason -- because I don't know them well enough to know who they are separated from what they like.)I have to admit I don't have so much sympathy for people who find other people or situations "boring" on a regular basis. It makes me think that you feel others, and the world, are there just to entertain you. Or that people can be used. Users are often characterized by talking about how bored they get or how boring others are. It makes you seem very childish to me if it's one of your big preoccupations. Childish and lacking creativity and initiative. And very likely selfish.
This is my approach, too. I prefer nice over interesting. Maybe that's why I connect so well with NFs -- shared priorities!-My friends must be nice (ie. good people, kind, etc).
-Ideally they should be both nice and interesting. My closest friends generally fall into that category. "Interesting" isn't a requirement for friendship, though. "Nice" is a pretty much non-negotiable requirement.
-If they are interesting but not nice, it is highly unlikely that I will want them as more than acquaintances, if that. An interesting/nasty person is probably best observed from a distance.
1) Knowing you're doing something important,
2) Enjoying the work you do, and
3) Enjoying the company of your coworkers (and possibly befriending them outside of work).
Two of those three make for a job you "like", and three make for an awesome job. In my summer job, I only had #1, which is why I hated it.
I relate to all of this.I know one of the reasons I like psychology is because I see that it has extremely high practical value in the social world, and it's just also interesting for me personally to learn how to navigate my environment. In the same manner, I can identify with the feeling that I'd enjoy learning something that is deemed 'useful' because it'll just add to my list of personal achievement and skills. When it comes to gaming for example, I'm constantly looking up methods in how to fine-tune my game-play, and this pretty much applies to all aspects of my life. I know there are others who dislike this method because it removes the excitement from discovering things by accident.
I'm glad you put the bolded words together like that! It means I'm not the only SJ who associates one with the other. Hooray for validationI do care a fair amount about the idea of doing 'interesting/meaningful work' as opposed to 'boring/pointless' work.
Thanks for the input everyone! Keep it coming!