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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkist View Post
    Somehow I happen to have a strong Si, and it's not normal for ISTPs to have such a strong Si. Often times it is used negatively, kinda like "I know this all too well (maybe because it's happened in the past), and I MUST get away from it!" That said, I often clash hard with SJs and to a lesser extent NPs that have a positive form of Si.

    Anyway, I wonder what a dialogue between Si and Se would look like.
    This is gonna be a real bummer for you... but I am not confident enough in my understanding of Se to really elaborate enough on this. I think that what you interpret as Si is actually Ni though. Si isn't just memory. You seem to be drawing trend lines, and that's more of Ni's forte.

    But with some of my interactions with online ones, dominant Se types tend to feel a little... distant? I guess that since my sensing is strongly "in my head", seeing it strongly fueled externally feels alien.

    I don't really have particularly strong opinions about other SPs. Since you are an ISTP and probably interested, I find that ISTPs are aloof.
    I don't see any invisible treasure chests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkist View Post
    Somehow I happen to have a strong Si, and it's not normal for ISTPs to have such a strong Si.
    I think that's awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owfin View Post
    I think that what you interpret as Si is actually Ni though. Si isn't just memory. You seem to be drawing trend lines, and that's more of Ni's forte.
    Sometimes it's Ni, other times I'll actually know the past in detail, and the SJ motive, and strive to evade it at all costs. That's the negative Si I'm talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I think that's awesome.
    It's really not. I've clashed with my ENFP sis in the grip of inferior Si. She's kinda insistent that I try to please her "the right way" in order for me to get what I want from her, and often times I get sickened by it. I've also clashed (or had the potential to) with SJs, so beware.
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    I imagine the Si-function like repertoir or a database of sensory inputs. Is that everything, or is the content somehow "labeled" (with connections, feelings, etc..)?

    If its build up like a database, is it possible to store results of thoughts in it too, or is it just for "pure" sensory inputs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakthrough View Post
    I imagine the Si-function like repertoir or a database of sensory inputs. Is that everything, or is the content somehow "labeled" (with connections, feelings, etc..)?

    If its build up like a database, is it possible to store results of thoughts in it too, or is it just for "pure" sensory inputs?
    Definitely labeled and definitely not just for sensory inputs. We don't just shove in anything in our minds and waste time examining it. It's more like we are a little animal, scurrying out of our den, grabbing a piece of food (but not a random rock, I presume it is Te that makes the call here) and scurrying back in. But external things can be external ideas and concepts as well as important sensory inputs.

    But what you are asking seems to be more focused on what we do with thoughts already in our mind, yes? Well, we do record anything further we have derived from things and modify them with new information that comes in. You get this constantly growing and revising library of information.
    I don't see any invisible treasure chests.

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    What is the difference between NE~~Si versus SI~~NE in terms of SI usage? When I think of the past, I look back emotions I miss and try to compound the new interpretations/lessons into me. In my present-living, something out there might recall a past experience.

    I can't tell if I'm ISFJ or ENFP. I imagine for you guys, it will be like NE taking a stroll down virtual memory lane. Do Si-dom/Secondaries tend to be very certain of how they act and who they are? (Pardon me if I sound like an amnesiac)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakawaka View Post
    What is the difference between NE~~Si versus SI~~NE in terms of SI usage? When I think of the past, I look back emotions I miss and try to compound the new interpretations/lessons into me. In my present-living, something out there might recall a past experience.

    I can't tell if I'm ISFJ or ENFP. I imagine for you guys, it will be like NE taking a stroll down virtual memory lane. Do Si-dom/Secondaries tend to be very certain of how they act and who they are? (Pardon me if I sound like an amnesiac)
    Great question. I am not certain myself.

    But.

    I know that I use Si because I naturally tend to focus intensely on sensory things (usually one at a time) and that quality pretty much makes me know that I'm an Si user. It's a fairly prominent trait of mine so it's likely in the dom or aux position. I also feel very, very stifled and unhappy of I don't have some room to be playful and imaginative almost daily. I think this may be one of the iNtuitive functions (Ni/Ne) at work and may be less prominent in me, putting it in the tertiary or inferior position.

    I don't know, I'm just guessing at this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thinkist View Post
    Sometimes it's Ni, other times I'll actually know the past in detail, and the SJ motive, and strive to evade it at all costs. That's the negative Si I'm talking about.

    It's really not. I've clashed with my ENFP sis in the grip of inferior Si. She's kinda insistent that I try to please her "the right way" in order for me to get what I want from her, and often times I get sickened by it. I've also clashed (or had the potential to) with SJs, so beware.
    Are you saying that it was your ENFP sis in the grip of inferior Si or you in the grip of inferior Si?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakawaka View Post
    What is the difference between NE~~Si versus SI~~NE in terms of SI usage? When I think of the past, I look back emotions I miss and try to compound the new interpretations/lessons into me. In my present-living, something out there might recall a past experience.

    I can't tell if I'm ISFJ or ENFP. I imagine for you guys, it will be like NE taking a stroll down virtual memory lane. Do Si-dom/Secondaries tend to be very certain of how they act and who they are? (Pardon me if I sound like an amnesiac)
    First, it works a little differently in ISFJs, I imagine.

    Second, the bolded one is basically second nature to me. I think one way to identify something as your dominant is when you see it and think, "Well, isn't that obvious?" I know how I have acted, yes. That is another one that seems obvious to me. With who I am... I am me. That sort of thing might be enneagram influenced. It wouldn't be so simple to answer for a type 9.
    I don't see any invisible treasure chests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Are you saying that it was your ENFP sis in the grip of inferior Si or you in the grip of inferior Si?
    I'm an ISTP. I don't really have an inferior Si. It's a shadow function in ISTPs. And come to think of it, my Si could just be Ni-Se masquerading as Si.
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    So holding grudges is an Ni thing rather than an Si thing?

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