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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    I really have a strange ESFP sample group: two nerdy mid-twenties guys with no artistic ability and no idea when to stop pontificating.

    Part of a general trend of knowing very few SPs, and even fewer that I actually like. In contrast, I'm completely surrounded by NFs.

    ?!?
    What is this place you speak of?
    If you make decisions based upon people's reactions or judgments then you make really boring choices.

    The more people love you, the more there's going to be people that hate you.

    I'm crazy and I don't pretend to be anything else.

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    I think at every job I've worked at in my life there's been at least 1 estp asshole that ruins everything. They seem to exist only to control everything.
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    I think the key to being a "good" workplace ESTJ is trust. Everything that people complain about, when it comes to ESTJs in the workplace -- especially ESTJs as bosses -- has to do with whether or not those ESTJs trust their coworkers/subordinates to do their jobs well, and to provide input and insight that the ESTJ might not otherwise have.
    EJCC: "The Big Questions in my life right now: 1) What am I willing to live with? 2) What do I have to live with? 3) What can I change for the better?"
    Coriolis: "Is that the ESTJ Serenity Prayer?"

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    I don't feel like a kid, but I do feel like I'm constantly pretending to be an adult...


    But I refuse to use the term 'adulting'. It's not adulting, its trying to be an adult. *old-man rant about millenials*
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    Bob Ross was a perfect human being.

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    Senior Member Ignorance is hate's Avatar
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    NJ thought here: y'all have low IQs, that's why you conform so easily and rely on others to make decisions for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignorance is hate View Post
    NJ thought here: y'all have low IQs
    The irony of this post and your username juxtaposed...

    Do a little more research on MBTI and intelligence. Even better, stop putting so much stake in IQ. Then we'll talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ignorance is hate View Post
    that's why you conform so easily and rely on others to make decisions for you.
    We don't rely on others to make decisions for us. Read any description of any SJ type and you will see that we are extremely decisive. My type and ESTPs are probably the most decisive types in the entire MBTI.

    As for how and why we "conform", allow me to link you to some good descriptions of introverted sensing:
    Let's Learn About Introverted Sensing!
    EJCC: "The Big Questions in my life right now: 1) What am I willing to live with? 2) What do I have to live with? 3) What can I change for the better?"
    Coriolis: "Is that the ESTJ Serenity Prayer?"

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    lawful good (D&D) / ravenclaw + wampus (HP) / boros legion (M:TG)
    conscientious > sensitive > serious (oldham)
    want to ask me something? go for it!
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    I love it when people insult those who are minding your their own business. Why, one of my favorite pastimes involves going to the local mosque and shouting to everyone that Muslims are literally Satan incarnate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    The irony of this post and your username juxtaposed...

    Do a little more research on MBTI and intelligence. Even better, stop putting so much stake in IQ. Then we'll talk.


    We don't rely on others to make decisions for us. Read any description of any SJ type and you will see that we are extremely decisive. My type and ESTPs are probably the most decisive types in the entire MBTI.

    As for how and why we "conform", allow me to link you to some good descriptions of introverted sensing:
    Let's Learn About Introverted Sensing!
    Nope, that hasn't been my experience with those of your type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignorance is hate View Post
    Nope, that hasn't been my experience with those of your type.
    Good thing no one here gives a fuck about your experience then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I think you have better things to do with your time than fail to troll the SJs on a typology forum.

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