I have yet to meet an EP who is entirely happy to reign in their excesses of behaviour, choice and pleasure seeking regardless of consequences.
This is bullshit. What you are talking about, is maturity levels now, not types. It's as if you're speaking of Ne going whack in isolation. That's not likely to happen. You need to meet a more varied sample of EPs. Or to actually try to understand what EPs are about, where THEY'RE coming from; rather than thinking that you've gotten them pinned under YOUR microscope and thus, all figured out.
It's like coming up with a half-assed hypothesis, and, "observing" through personal bias (not objectively), and thus, concluding that your hypothesis is, indeed, "correct" while you pat yourself on the back for a job well done, bucko! Self-congratulatory to the point of being ridiculously delusional.
Even if we look at it from a theoretical perspective, it's blatantly contradictory to what we would expect:
ENTP - Ti reigns in Ne's whimsy, and systematically calculates the consequences of the action, and determines whether to follow course. And, if we are satisfied with the WHY of the conclusion, we are happy, we are content.
ENFP - Fi reigns in Ne's whimsy, and systematically values the consequences of the action, and determines whether to follow course. And, if they're satified with the WHY of the conclusion, I'd guess they would be quite happy and content, as well.
So, that thought of yours = BULLSHIT.
EJ types are not quite as tolerant of eccentricities as we are
Again, bullshit.
Anecdotally speaking, the ENFJs I know (some of my closest friends) are just as much, if not more,
emphatically so, encouraging of my quirkiness than my equally close bf, the INTJ.
If there is one thing I know about EP types it is never to understimate their ability to do something they think will have no consequences and then to complain when those consequences occur.
You don't know even ONE thing about EPs, then, it seems. Because the idea that we so grossly misjudge consequences is neither supported by RL examples, nor by theory. AND, we're more likely to roll with the punches than sit in the corner and whine and complain about the consequences, like say, INTJs with their micro-managing planning would be more likely do.
We may sometimes NOT CARE about the consequences
the same way you might, or see different aspects of the consequences as more important than others (unlike yourself), but that does not then logically conclude that we think there are "NO consequences". <- that's your personal bias talking, not an objectively-derived conclusion.
You are making EP types sound like we have no concept of cause/effect or any self-control. Stop misrepresenting us, and think twice before commenting on things you know jack all about. It just highlights YOUR OWN skewed view of "superiority" and self-conceit, while making no accurate commentary on EPs.
Arrogance is ignorance with a mask. Condescending arrogance is when insecurity whines.
Stop whining.
i feel ya, redcheerio. i accidentally piss people off a lot by being flippant about things that others take seriously without realizing until it's too late that i've done so. hanging around with others that get me for a good amount of time can cause me to be a bit too comfortable with being myself and that causes problems when i again get around others who don't know me as well. i forget how truly badly i can come off if not careful, but we do learn and we do want to learn and that combination, more often than not, wins out in the end. great for us; great for them.
+1
sadly, a lot of our kind of kidding around comes in the form of faux cockiness. i mean, sure, we can be cocky, but unlike those who truly are full of themselves, we're actually aware that we're being full of crap when we do it. hell, even when we're really feeling cocky, we're aware of how much more we have to learn. however, those who don't know that, only see the surface BS, and believe we really think we're as great as we're joking we are.
On the ball, and a very important point about ENTPs. We're actually likely being self-deprecating through our "cocky" veneer. It's sarcasm. It's, for me, a way of weeding out those who are superficially interested in getting to know me, and those who are not, and thus, willing to tread beneath the surface.
the way i usually 'fix' these situations, is to go to them for help. not only does it show that we value something they can contribute, but it also gives them the chance to realize that perhaps they'd judged the situation wrong and opens them up to giving us another chance. asking for advice (about anything) one or two more times after that, mixed in with being yourself, but making it more obvious that you know you're full of crap when acting that way allows them to see you more clearly.
hope this helps.
Spot-on advice.
Hm, that makes sense, thanks.
Funny you should mention going to lunch a lot, because she used to invite me to lunch sometimes, and I never opened up to her because I didn't trust her. She used to complain about other coworkers when they weren't around, and use things they'd confided in her against them with the boss. Now I'm wondering if she
was sincerely trying to make an effort, and I made things worse by keeping quiet. I always had the impression she was trying to set traps for me, since she often said things to the boss to get him pissed off at others in the office.
Hm, I'm still not sure whether I was being smart or paranoid. 
I've been in similar situations, and, my advice? Trust your intuition. Trust what it's picking up about the pattern of that person. If they can do it to others, then it's within their "moral" capacity to also do it to you. Be wary.
