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    Senior Member redcheerio's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I understand. I sometimes do the same thing (push to understand someone) but if it seems like some sort of subjective preference that they have then I might tell them how I feel about the topic and then leave them be with their own preferences, because I think people have a right to have their individual preferences.

    I have encountered puzzles like this too and sometimes people just can't explain because the source is feeling-based and you can't always explain feelings until you have done a lot of introspection.
    That makes sense. I guess for ENTPs, it's difficult to understand how someone can have an opinion without having thought it through. So at that point, we have to give up on understanding and just accept, or leave it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    That makes sense. I guess for ENTPs, it's difficult to understand how someone can have an opinion without having thought it through. So at that point, we have to give up on understanding and just accept, or leave it be.
    And that's probably when I'd go all soft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    And that's probably when I'd go all soft.
    Aw, cute.

    Problem is, most young ENTPs would have a hard time doing that, maybe even have a hard time realizing it's appropriate. We can be very determined/ stubborn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redcheerio View Post
    He sounds like an ENTP I know, too, an extreme extrovert.




    What do you mean by "manipulate"? I have very negative connotations associated with that word, but I know that other ENTPs will say that they manipulate people. By my definition of manipulate, it doesn't seem like an ENTP thing to do. To me, manipulation is sort of passive aggressive and evil.
    Definitely not in a bad way. The entp has no bad intent. He just has this way of influencing the ESFJ's actions. It has me cracking up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    Definitely not in a bad way. The entp has no bad intent. He just has this way of influencing the ESFJ's actions. It has me cracking up.
    Ah, ok, gotcha, thanks.

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