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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    Benton Fraser - Due South ISFJ
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    Suzaku - Code geass ISTJ
    Mikami - Death note ISTJ
    Suzaku from Code Geass is ISFJ (no Te or Fi, tons of irrational Fe and a fair amount of Ti). more importantly, he's not a bad ass at all. I also think Mikami is INFP. although he could be ISTJ or INTJ (all I know is he is an unhealthy 1w9 with lots of even less healthy Fi)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Suzaku from Code Geass is ISFJ (no Te or Fi, tons of irrational Fe and a fair amount of Ti). more importantly, he's not a bad ass at all. I also think Mikami is INFP. although he could be ISTJ or INTJ (all I know is he is an unhealthy 1w9 with lots of even less healthy Fi)
    Hmmm. I can see such with Suzaku though the general reasoning I would call Suzaku ISTJ would be that he tends to create the most efficient way of cutting through a path to get what he desires done. I would see the logic he used is all based on what is logically efficient to get what he wants in difference to emotional. Knowing that he is to kill someone who saved his life to get to the goal he desires he would not hesitate to do so and that may be more liable to lean towards Te than Fe. The SiFi tends also to create that particular no budging loyalty towards anything to be achieved and Te goes about the best manner to achieve it.
    But yes, I can also see ISFJ as the other possibility which would be seen as his motives are stemmed from the emotions distorted in his past. It creates the particular goal and motivations he works towards. With Si being the loyal aspect to his Fe created motivations and goals.

    Hmm, perhaps best to take the simpler explanation of what type he could possibly be as it's particularly that which is perceived more in front view by the viewers so yes, I suppose ISFJ can very well be the case.
    And, yes, I suppose he isn't a badass really. I never did really like him throughout the show. Shouldn't have mentioned him.

    Always thought Mikami to be ISTJ. Though I can definitely understand INFP. He is so very introverted he goes into the introverted loop of SiFi to bring about the very strong loyalty shown and the given hate to the world also. I suspect though, he shows a bit more Te than Ne which would make me pin him down to the ISTJ over INFP type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    Hmmm. I can see such with Suzaku though the general reasoning I would call Suzaku ISTJ would be that he tends to create the most efficient way of cutting through a path to get what he desires done. I would see the logic he used is all based on what is logically efficient to get what he wants in difference to emotional. Knowing that he is to kill someone who saved his life to get to the goal he desires he would not hesitate to do so and that may be more liable to lean towards Te than Fe. The SiFi tends also to create that particular no budging loyalty towards anything to be achieved and Te goes about the best manner to achieve it.
    But yes, I can also see ISFJ as the other possibility which would be seen as his motives are stemmed from the emotions distorted in his past. It creates the particular goal and motivations he works towards. With Si being the loyal aspect to his Fe created motivations and goals.

    Hmm, perhaps best to take the simpler explanation of what type he could possibly be as it's particularly that which is perceived more in front view by the viewers so yes, I suppose ISFJ can very well be the case.
    And, yes, I suppose he isn't a badass really. I never did really like him throughout the show.

    Always thought Mikami to be ISTJ. Though I can definitely understand INFP. He is so very introverted he goes into the introverted loop of SiFi to bring about the very strong loyalty shown and the given hate to the world also. I suspect though, he shows a bit more Te than Ne which would in make me pin him down to the ISTJ over INFP type.
    I still don't see ISTJ for Suzaku, I think his thinking is more introverted and systematic (Ni/Te is systematic as well, but Si/Te isn't) and all the things he seems to care about are extremely Fe. he's also much too emotional to be an ISTJ. Fi values freedom and ideals, Suzaku values compliance to authority and peace at the expense or freedom and respect (more Fe than Fi). compare Suzaku's Fe/Ti with Lelouch's Fi/Te. completely different decision making functions
    Mikami seems more INFP to be because I believe his ESTJ shadow is actually where the Te is coming from (INFPs in shadow mode are cool as hell sometimes lol) in the clips you see of him as a child, he is clear IFP child and not ISJ child, but I suppose ISTJ is also possible
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    Wong Kei Ying (Iron Monkey) ISTJ or ESTJ
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    also, Michelle Yeoh's character in Iron Monkey (ISFJ)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I actually think Hermione is ESTJ.
    I dunno, most of the time she's enigmatic and reserved... Like the archetypal bookworm.

    Karkat Vantas, Homestuck - ESTJ
    Teresa Lisbon, The Mentalist - xSTJ
    Spock, Star Trek - ISTJ (some versions make him more INTJ, though, IIRC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian View Post
    I dunno, most of the time she's enigmatic and reserved... Like the archetypal bookworm.

    Karkat Vantas, Homestuck - ESTJ
    Teresa Lisbon, The Mentalist - xSTJ
    Spock, Star Trek - ISTJ (some versions make him more INTJ, though, IIRC)
    I could see her either way actually, I just see a lot more Te/Ne than Si/Fi. perhaps this is just strength and not preference though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    I still don't see ISTJ for Suzaku, I think his thinking is more introverted and systematic (Ni/Te is systematic as well, but Si/Te isn't) and all the things he seems to care about are extremely Fe. he's also much too emotional to be an ISTJ. Fi values freedom and ideals, Suzaku values compliance to authority and peace at the expense or freedom and respect (more Fe than Fi). compare Suzaku's Fe/Ti with Lelouch's Fi/Te. completely different decision making functions
    Mikami seems more INFP to be because I believe his ESTJ shadow is actually where the Te is coming from (INFPs in shadow mode are cool as hell sometimes lol) in the clips you see of him as a child, he is clear IFP child and not ISJ child, but I suppose ISTJ is also possible
    Oh, yes, It makes sense with the Fe being the stem of his motives and goals as said. The whole peace at the expense for freedom and respect thing. Definitely Fe like.
    However my thoughts for the Te is more of, 'There is a goal. It must be achieved and I won't allow anything to get in my way'. Fe may allow for emotions to get in way of getting things done. As known Te may manifest differently in implementation with difference in NiTe to SiTe which causes the difference in Lelouch's implementation of strategy over Suzaku implementation of getting things done. I had supposed the goal that Suzaku wants to achieve may have stemmed from the value of wanting individual freedom by the peace created which may be where the goal may arise. But if he just wished for the peace created alone that would certainly be more Fe fuelled.
    You are right, however complicating things enough may allow things to be seen in another form. That is perhaps what I've done. Not the best thing to do for characters in a show.

    Hmmm, for mikami I had just thought of the great introvertion or extravertion loop. The loops arise from being too introverted or too extraverted. An ISTJ too introverted goes into SiFi often before grounding things with Te. I cannot remember mikami's past in the show. Perhaps it would indeed point more to INFP than ISTJ. I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakysage View Post
    Oh, yes, It makes sense with the Fe being the stem of his motives and goals as said. The whole peace at the expense for freedom and respect thing. Definitely Fe like.
    However my thoughts for the Te is more of, 'There is a goal. It must be achieved and I won't allow anything to get in my way'. Fe may allow for emotions to get in way of getting things done. As known Te may manifest differently in implementation with difference in NiTe to SiTe which causes the difference in Lelouch's implementation of strategy over Suzaku implementation of getting things done. I had supposed the goal that Suzaku wants to achieve may have stemmed from the value of wanting individual freedom by the peace created which may be where the goal may arise. But if he just wished for the peace created alone that would certainly be more Fe fuelled.
    You are right, however complicating things enough may allow things to be seen in another form. That is perhaps what I've done.

    Hmmm, for mikami I had just thought of the great introvertion or extravertion loop. The loops arise from being too introverted or too extraverted. An ISTJ too introverted goes into SiFi often before grounding things with Te. I cannot remember mikami's past in the show. Perhaps it would indeed point more to INFP than ISTJ. I could be wrong.
    what's cool about Lelouch is he's Te plus tons of Fi so it's like normal Te but backed with extra conviction and fire. the normally sinister looking INTJ (at least, that's how you come across to imbeciles who don't know the first thing about INTJs and just judge you) suddenly becomes heroic and idealistic, while still retaining all of his superior mastermind abilities when he taps into Fi. lots of INTJs with strong Fi go into politics or become charismatic leaders of some sort (though usually from a more behind the scenes position like Lelouch did)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    what's cool about Lelouch is he's Te plus tons of Fi so it's like normal Te but backed with extra conviction and fire. the normally sinister looking INTJ (at least, that's how you come across to imbeciles who don't know the first thing about INTJs and just judge you) suddenly becomes heroic and idealistic, while still retaining all of his superior mastermind abilities when he taps into Fi. lots of INTJs with strong Fi go into politics or become charismatic leaders of some sort (though usually from a more behind the scenes position like Lelouch did)
    Certainly very interesting as it never went into the stereotypical portrayals of an INTJ the way any sort of media likes to show them as. The balancing made him one of the most likable as well as a constant reference whenever the discussion of fictional INTJs.

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