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    Yeah, this is an old thread. I know @Elfboy has gotten better in his understanding of type since making this. Obviously Keirsey's stuff is crap. But to answer the question anyway, no, I like being what I am. Si for me is nothing like it's described in the OP. My life is pretty great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    Yeah, this is an old thread. I know @Elfboy has gotten better in his understanding of type since making this. Obviously Keirsey's stuff is crap. But to answer the question anyway, no, I like being what I am. Si for me is nothing like it's described in the OP. My life is pretty great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
    Yeah, this is an old thread. I know @Elfboy has gotten better in his understanding of type since making this. Obviously Keirsey's stuff is crap. But to answer the question anyway, no, I like being what I am. Si for me is nothing like it's described in the OP. My life is pretty great.
    come to think of it, that was probably the main reason for said misconceptions
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    It doesn't suck, mostly. Sometimes I wish I could be a little less stressed and little more carefree and relaxed about things. But I remember that everything around us in this world needs people behind the scenes to make it work. At a party, you will see SJ's cleaning, preparing, cooking, etc. In an office, you will see them running things making sure things go smoothly. I don't think anyone can fully know what it is like to be a "different type." Who we are is all we know and what we know is what we are used to and like. Being an ENFP, you look at the world through your own lens, and through that lens, anything that isn't quite as carefree, adaptable, loose, etc does not seem fun. Monotonous work, planning, organizing, may seem like chores to you @Elfboy but for others those things are what we love and keep us sane in a crazy and ever changing world. We all have a place in this world, not little boxes, but places in which we can flourish and do what we do best. It does not suck to be an SJ, it can be tiring, it can be stressful, but we are best equipped to handle the negatives. NF's perhaps don't like the idea of being an SJ because it's boring and it "sucks," SJ's perhaps don't like the idea of being NF because its useless and lazy (stereotypes and nothing more). For myself, I wish I could be a bit more extroverted, intuitive, feeling and perceptive, but I'm happy and proud to be a curmudgeonly ISTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstrazz View Post
    It doesn't suck, mostly. Sometimes I wish I could be a little less stressed and little more carefree and relaxed about things. But I remember that everything around us in this world needs people behind the scenes to make it work. At a party, you will see SJ's cleaning, preparing, cooking, etc. In an office, you will see them running things making sure things go smoothly. I don't think anyone can fully know what it is like to be a "different type." Who we are is all we know and what we know is what we are used to and like. Being an ENFP, you look at the world through your own lens, and through that lens, anything that isn't quite as carefree, adaptable, loose, etc does not seem fun. Monotonous work, planning, organizing, may seem like chores to you @Elfboy but for others those things are what we love and keep us sane in a crazy and ever changing world. We all have a place in this world, not little boxes, but places in which we can flourish and do what we do best. It does not suck to be an SJ, it can be tiring, it can be stressful, but we are best equipped to handle the negatives. NF's perhaps don't like the idea of being an SJ because it's boring and it "sucks," SJ's perhaps don't like the idea of being NF because its useless and lazy (stereotypes and nothing more). For myself, I wish I could be a bit more extroverted, intuitive, feeling and perceptive, but I'm happy and proud to be a curmudgeonly ISTJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noon View Post
    This is delightfully ironic considering that you are an NFP, lol
    In my experience, Fi moral perfectionism is equal to, if not more than, the amount of stress one could possibly get from Si propriety perfectionism.

    If you are indeed ENFP, you're probably projecting inferior Si onto others and is perhaps why it makes you think having higher Si would be insufferable. What you are fundamentally missing is that your complex (the particular way Si is behaving and your own reaction to it) is somewhat unique to those with inferior (ENP) or shadow (NFJ) Si. For an actual SJ, Si is prone to be just as relaxing as Ne is for you (with just as many occasional annoyances as you too may get from Ne).

    To further answer your question though, yes, if I can be considered a proper example of SJ, it is tough being SJ sometimes. I experience this when my needs are continually not being met (in times of heightened stress in other words). I start to think of those needs as character flaws and might wish I didn't have them. I believe a similar thing can happen with non-SJs too.
    Hey, cool post!

    But that's ESFJ, not Si per say.
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    I don't have an issue with SJ's. Honestly, I think I've had more pressure in my life to conform to SP and NF values than SJ values (at least as Keirsey defines them), so I tend to have more issues with those temperaments. Even so, I don't think they suck, and I think they bring valuable things to the table.
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    SJ's are the top tier of human existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    SJ's are the top tier of human existence.
    Top tier idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    Top tier idiots

    I cannot tell if this is a genuine expression of thought or an attempt to facilitate an emotional response.

    At any rate, to each its own.

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