I work with three male ISFJs in executive roles. Two are VPs and one is a PMO director.
All three lie about stuff.
If a problem is brought up they say they "Oh, well take care of that" and make promises to deal with the issue, then they dont deliver. They cant and couldnt ever have delivered as the things they promised were not possible-logistically they didnt have the time, resources of staff to do so. They make cracked out crazy person promises, like totally looney bin stuff.
Are they lying on purpose to keep others happy or are they lying because they dont understand what is required logistically?
They are all very hesitant to write anything down on paper-they only want to have verbal meetings. In different meetings with different people, they will make different promises. Then they will tend to deliver upon the promises made to the most senior executive without modifying the directives given previously based on early promises-so their people end up in loops of wasted time....
If questioned-they seem confused about the different versions of promises-almost like they arent even aware they made different promises to different people...could this be possible?
They selectively remove individuals who disagree with them, creating silos, but seem like genuinely kind people, who mean the best-is disagreement that difficult and disruptive to ISFJs?
When told a task isnt possible, they will go "well that isnt acceptable, we just need to work on it". Like impossible timelines or seeking to have a product manufactured that requires other products-which arent made yet. They imply that other groups or individuals just arent working hard enough and they refuse to listen when presented with, well, timelines. The answer is that we just need to talk to the other person's boss and it will cause the work to be completed faster.
Is this a default ISFJ stance? That if someone says they cant do something that they are making excuses
In meetings-when asked about status-the updates they provide will be very optimistic or focus on data that doesnt really reflect the state of their group. They will omit things that are bad. Like ten month delays in projects or 500K spent researching project management software or 300% six month turnover in their department. So the departments fester from within, and the surrounding departments can sense it-but up the chain everything seems okay-until it collapses, then they blame other departments...
Again, it seems they are afraid of disrupting the happiness of the boss??
Man I dunno, maybe what I am hoping to hear is that this is abnormal behavior and that my guys are nuts.