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    My mother is (I believe) an ESFJ and I find myself incapable of truly respecting her. A few days ago we got in an argument and although I forget the details (think it was about me going to work for two days with toothpaste-stained pants) I felt the need to mention that her logic was absolutely abysmal (and that's coming from me with my low standards!) She was trying the whole Fe "people will talk about you behind your back" rubbish which I was trying to explain to her is irrelevant to me (a workplace is supposed to judge on productivity primarily.) She of course did not get it. I have similar issues with trying to explain that whilst I have savings it does not make me "rich", as it was accumulated over a long period and moving out would still cause me to go broke in two years as income levels would be insufficient. No matter how many times I explain she can't seem to grasp that either. There's a noticeable lack of Ne and ability to think outside the box and she is borderline OCD with the house. Plus there's the whole Fe programming where although she does things for others its clearly a white noise in her mind because she doesn't truly care about the opinions or desires of others as everything must be her way (including her having the only right to complain as she does all the housework.) She's always right and smarter than everyone else of course no matter the amount of counter-evidence.

    I don't think they're all like that however. I've had a few experiences with Fe users and I found their use of emotional intelligence refreshing. However they have always been in a professional environment so for all I know they could be just like my mother when at home.

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    Why are we hating on ESFJ's? I've always thought of them as the type most likely to perform non-reciprocal oral on a regular basis.

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    I hate when they tell me to chew with my mouth closed and to stop picking my nose and get my hand out of my pants and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    Why are we hating on ESFJ's? I've always thought of them as the type most likely to perform non-reciprocal oral on a regular basis.
    Are you trying to drop a hint? I told you...behind the bleachers after class.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    Are you trying to drop a hint? I told you...behind the bleachers after class.

    I waited all lunch period and you never came

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    I waited all lunch period and you never came
    Or maybe you never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    I hate when they tell me to chew with my mouth closed and to stop picking my nose and get my hand out of my pants and stuff.
    My mother says the exact same fucking things to me. I may have to try doing all three at the same time and see if she can handle it without her head popping off.

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    I've decided that if I have a child, I'm going to have the child blessed by my family priest. I'm going to have the pastor pray that God will give him a long and healthy life, that he will be successful, and most of all: I will have him pray very diligently that the child doesn't wind up being an ESFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    I've decided that if I have a child, I'm going to have the child blessed by my family priest. I'm going to have the pastor pray that God will give him a long and healthy life, that he will be successful, and most of all: I will have him pray very diligently that the child doesn't wind up being an ESFJ.
    It's a curse.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    It's a curse.
    I made The Great One's little joke here public on Vent yesterday, and then I even mentioned how ESFJ babies are cursed upon birth, and then the folks talked a bit about their thoughts on how you could be ESFJ, but they said you would not have the traditional negative stereotype associated with it, since you are not enneagram 2 like most.

    But then again, why the hell should we even believe you are an ESFJ? You are not that rare, or that special here!

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