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    Wink ESFJs what do you admire about Madonna & Donald Trump

    I am gathering information that may be used for a subjective study of the Socionics Relations. According to this theory, ESFJs often "admire" ESTPs. Madonna & Donald Trump are mentioned because they are supposed good examples of the ESTP type as agreed upon by the public.

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    I don't give a shit about Madonna or Donald Trump. I am too busy living in the real world to be worrying about celebrities *shudders*

    I'll tell you what i admire about ESTP's i know IRL

    - Loyal .. They've got your back
    - Trust .. Interdependence
    - Damn good fun .. Need i say more
    - I see that they care in their own way
    - In my brothers case, i love the 'It'll be alright' attitude.
    - Money wise, seem to have their heads screwed on well. My brother owned 2 properties by the age of 24. Can't be bad.

    That'll do for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post
    I don't give a shit about Madonna or Donald Trump. I am too busy living in the real world to be worrying about celebrities *shudders*
    I second this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malice View Post
    I second this.
    Good taste

    No wonder people don't ask us a lot of questions .. I scare them away with my honest and direct speak (that sounds so much better than being blunt)

    Next ESFJ thread Malice is all yours .. Promise.
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    That's probably what most of the ESFJs I know would say about Madonna and Donna Trump. My ESFJ dad and I love to mock Trump's hair, though.

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    Well, Donald Trump is ENTJ, not ESTP -- though he is most likely SLE (ESTp) though. You're making a mistake conflating Socionics types with MBTI types -- they're very different.

    Madonna is indeed an SLE ESTP, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Well, Donald Trump is ENTJ, not ESTP -
    You don't know what he is. No one does. Only he can verify his type, should he choose to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    You don't know what he is.
    I know what he appears to be, based on his words and actions -- which has a very good chance of being what he actually is.

    It's obviously not possible to actually know exactly what someone thinks and how they think, but it still leaks -- in people's expressions, in their actions, in their words. That's how cold reading works, and that's how thousands of fake psychics worldwide are raking in the millions. Your view on the matter is myopic, and frankly it doesn't belong here. if you don't believe in typology, here's the door:

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    As fast as you can make em' like that, I'll keep reporting them.

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    What rule did I break?
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