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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Have you seen the movie Gone With The Wind? Melanie is a 2w1 and Scarlett is a 2w3, do you see the difference?
    yes, I definitely see a difference between those two. They're both exaggerated roles but I relate more to Melanie, the 2w1.


    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    Are you more concerned with autonomy or approval?

    As an ISFJ do you feel closer to ESFJ or ISTJ?
    Approval but I do need alone time.
    My F is pretty high so I feel closer to ESFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    yes, I definitely see a difference between those two. They're both exaggerated roles but I relate more to Melanie, the 2w1.




    Approval but I do need alone time.
    My F is pretty high so I feel closer to ESFJ.
    The reason why I ask is because approval-seeking is more 3ish,and also 1 is associated strongly with ISTJ.

    I'm a 4w3, and I'm more dramatic than a 4w5. Apparently 2w3 are also supposed to be more dramatic than 2w1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    The reason why I ask is because approval-seeking is more 3ish,and also 1 is associated strongly with ISTJ.

    I'm a 4w3, and I'm more dramatic than a 4w5. Apparently 2w3 are also supposed to be more dramatic than 2w1.
    Ahh I get it now, thanks. I'll ask some people I know. I think I'm more dramatic though and definitely seek approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post
    Seriously? Wow....color me shocked :eek:
    For 50 Cent, I'm totally sure, for Vin Diesel, I initially thought he is ISTP, he's often typed ISTP and I still be a little hesitant. At the same time, he's also often typed as ISFJ. See here for example:http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...-s-type-2.html

    He can be an ISFJ with a strong Ti, or an ISTP with trong connection with Fe.

    Males ISFJs often think it's important to be viril, and display a macho style wich make them lok-a-like with others types, so Vin Diesel can look xSTP. Same for 50 Cent, same also for John Wayne, an ISFJ who act like a stereotypical ESTJ. But actually, it's not only an ISFJ concern, most part of F male actor have to play T character and display a T appearance if they want to be considered as viril. Brad Pitt, for example, often play ESTP roles, but he is ISFP.

    By the way:
    2w1s are more about "being called to serve". They're the twos more likely to be drawn to community service jobs and religious vocations. They are more likely to serve others purely out of principle. They take pride in being willing to assist others at the expense of themselves. They are proud to make sacrifices and accept the thankless jobs others don't want. They look to give up their time to benefit people more than work with people directly. They are willing to toil anonymously in unglamourous roles behind the scenes. They are willing to get their hands dirty with nothing to show for it. They take pride in not thinking highly of themselves for their good deeds when they know they could. Seeing others better off is its own reward. That is what it truly means to serve people.

    2w1s tend to be more introverted and less saccharine. Due to their one wing they are both more idealistic and harder on themselves. They are also grittier and have more of a self-righteous streak. While they are more restrained and appropriate they are also more fiercely independent. They are more self-referential and less concerned with others expectations. They have a more internal system of scoring "virtue" points with themselves.

    2w1s pride themselves in being down-to-earth and in not needing attention. They take pride that they are often overlooked and don't get the recognition they deserve. They take pride in being able to consider others who are more deserving more worthy than themselves. They have an ego in not internally exalting themselves for what they do. While they are proud to assist others without fanfare they still resent not being given their due. They are prone to falling in love with their own tragedy of never getting the credit that they deserve. When unhealthy they have a more veiled nature of controlling people compared to their more effusive and domineering three-winged siblings.


    2w3s are more about "seeking to help and inspire". They value openmindedness and view being judgemental as counterproductive. They have more of an obvious need to be needed and are naturals at being the center of attention. They are more likely to host and organize things that others are interested in. They're the twos more likely to be involved with more open and cooperative facilitating efforts like charities and non-profit organizations. They take pride in being able to offer assistance where others want help. They are as much about the relationships as the help efforts.

    Unlike their one-winged siblings 2w3s are anything but invisible. They tend to be warmer and more charming. They are more connective and upbeat. The more extroverted ones tend to be cloying and tacky. Either way they are characters that have no problem standing out. Due to their three wing they are both more results-oriented and naturally confident. They are more ambitious and competitive. They are also smoother and more pragmatic as well as more expansive and effusive. They are less self-referential and more likely to see interdependence as acceptable...even desireable. Although they set their own expectations they are concerned with what others think of them enough to let that dictate their actions. They have a more external interpersonally-based system of scoring "goodness" points with themselves.

    2w3s pride themselves in being "just what the doctor ordered" for that person or situation. They take pride in being naturals at helping others. They hold themselves in high-esteem. They have a more variable self-image and are more adaptable. They have more of an ego in being an altruistic VIP. If they go out of their way for someone and don't get appreciated they can become manipulative and bossy. When unhealthy their style of controlling others tends to be more domineering and smothering compared to their more restrained one-wing siblings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    For 50 Cent, I'm totally sure, for Vin Diesel, I initially thought he is ISTP, he's often typed ISTP and I still be a little hesitant. At the same time, he's also often typed as ISFJ. See here for example:http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...-s-type-2.html

    He can be an ISFJ with a strong Ti, or an ISTP with trong connection with Fe.

    Males ISFJs often think it's important to be viril, and display a macho style wich make them lok-a-like with others types, so Vin Diesel can look xSTP. Same for 50 Cent, same also for John Wayne, an ISFJ who act like a stereotypical ESTJ. But actually, it's not only an ISFJ concern, most part of F male actor have to play T character and display a T appearance if they want to be considered as viril. Brad Pitt, for example, often play ESTP roles, but he is ISFP.

    By the way:
    I really don't get how one could even know if a male is simply "displaying" a macho style (irl, not on-screen) as opposed to actually having a macho style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Non Fictionals
    Mother Theresa
    Jacky Kennedy
    Robert E. Lee
    François Fillon
    Queen Elisabeth II
    Queen Mary I
    Gordon Brown
    Nick Zinner
    Sid Vicious
    Lady Dy
    Withney Houston
    Beyoncé
    Mary J. Blige
    Mariah Carey
    Alicia Keys
    Carla Bruni
    Britanny Snow
    Vanessa Ferlito
    Adriana Lima
    Andy Wharol
    John Wayne
    50 Cent
    Vin Diesel
    Johnny Carson
    Robin Roberts
    Michael Caine
    Kristi Yamaguchi
    Ed Bradley
    Alfred, Lord Tennyson
    Louisa May Alcott
    John Betjeman
    Seamus Heaney
    Samuel Richardson
    W H Auden
    Jeffrey Eugenides
    Agatha Christie
    Laura Ingalls Wilder
    Arthur Conan Doyle
    Chris Carraba
    Elijah Wood
    Van Gogh
    Charles Dickens
    Sylvia Plath
    Joseph, father of Jesus

    Fictionals
    C3-PO (Str Wars)
    Owen Lars (Star Wars)
    Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars)
    Mace Windu (Star Wars)
    Barris Offee (Star Wars Expanded Universe)
    Plo Koon (Star Wars Expanded Universe)
    Riley Finn (BTVS)
    Jonathan (BTVS)
    Fred (AtS)
    Sean MacNamara (Nip/Tuck)
    Marge Simpsons (The Simpsons)
    Milhouse (The Simpsons)
    Leeloo (The 5th Element)
    Navigator Lambert (Alien)
    Chani (Dune)
    Melanie Wilkes (Gone With The Wind)
    Tonya (Dr Zhivago)
    Ross (Friends)
    Clark Kent/Superman (DC Universe)
    Alfred (DC Universe)
    Snow White (Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs)
    Cinderella
    Hagrid (Harry Potter)
    Sam Gamegie (LOTR)
    Simon (Firefly)
    Arthur (Knights of The Round Table Legend)
    Tess (Tess Of The d'Urbervilles)
    Bianca (Taming of the Shrew)
    David Copperfield
    Hero (Much Ado About Nothing)
    Ophelia (Hamlet)
    Dr. John H. Watson
    "Jack" (Fight Club)
    Kady (Mean Girls)
    Jodie (Daria)
    Stacy (Daria)
    Vincent Van Gogh- depressive as fuck ISFP
    Arthur Conan Doyle- Badass ISTP
    C-3PO- ESFJ
    Qui-Gon Jinn- ENFJ. So a guy who has never sat on the Jedi Council simply because he never listens to them is Si-dom? Fucking lulz. Obi-Wan is more SJ-like, but the ass-pulled excuse he gave Luke reeks of cryptic Ni bullshit.
    Leloo- INFP -- quite Si indeed, but also very blatantly Fi.
    Simon Tam- ISTJ (ISFJ is less hilariously off-base than ESTP, but he still seems to me too vicious to be ISFJ).
    Jack- ISFP (ISFJ isn't too far-fetched though)
    Cady- ESFJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Males ISFJs often think it's important to be viril, and display a macho style wich make them lok-a-like with others types, so Vin Diesel can look xSTP. Same for 50 Cent, same also for John Wayne, an ISFJ who act like a stereotypical ESTJ. But actually, it's not only an ISFJ concern, most part of F male actor have to play T character and display a T appearance if they want to be considered as viril. Brad Pitt, for example, often play ESTP roles, but he is ISFP.

    Hmm...not sure how I feel about this. As a male ISFJ I know I try to put on a silent, stoical front but I've never considered myself "macho". In fact i tend to be very disdainful toward "macho". I'm very quiet and reserved and often try to come off as being polite and considerate.

    Also:
    2w1s are more about "being called to serve". They're the twos more likely to be drawn to community service jobs and religious vocations. They are more likely to serve others purely out of principle. They take pride in being willing to assist others at the expense of themselves. They are proud to make sacrifices and accept the thankless jobs others don't want. They look to give up their time to benefit people more than work with people directly. They are willing to toil anonymously in unglamourous roles behind the scenes. They are willing to get their hands dirty with nothing to show for it. They take pride in not thinking highly of themselves for their good deeds when they know they could. Seeing others better off is its own reward. That is what it truly means to serve people.

    2w1s tend to be more introverted and less saccharine. Due to their one wing they are both more idealistic and harder on themselves. They are also grittier and have more of a self-righteous streak. While they are more restrained and appropriate they are also more fiercely independent. They are more self-referential and less concerned with others expectations. They have a more internal system of scoring "virtue" points with themselves.

    2w1s pride themselves in being down-to-earth and in not needing attention. They take pride that they are often overlooked and don't get the recognition they deserve. They take pride in being able to consider others who are more deserving more worthy than themselves. They have an ego in not internally exalting themselves for what they do. While they are proud to assist others without fanfare they still resent not being given their due. They are prone to falling in love with their own tragedy of never getting the credit that they deserve. When unhealthy they have a more veiled nature of controlling people compared to their more effusive and domineering three-winged siblings.
    This sounds a LOT like me, both the good and (to my discredit) the bad. At my worst, I tend to be a very cold, manipulative bastard. It's not something I'm proud of, which why I always try to mind myself when I found myself dealing with a person or situation that I really, REALLY do not like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    Males ISFJs often think it's important to be viril, and display a macho style wich make them lok-a-like with others types, so Vin Diesel can look xSTP. Same for 50 Cent, same also for John Wayne, an ISFJ who act like a stereotypical ESTJ.
    So how do you tell them apart?

    You do this a lot; mention how X type can look like Y type, but then fail to explain why then Z person is X type rather than Y type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I'm not really sure about Warhol being ISFJ, either.
    I take this back. I've done some more reading recently, and I *do* think he was ISFJ.

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