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    Quote Originally Posted by ayoitsStepho View Post
    Well, its not so comforting know that your cause discomfort in others...just by steriotype. I feel like I'm gonna walk into a thread and everyones gonna yell "ISFJ, RUNNNN!!" and then all the cookies i brought for enjoyment will be wasted
    Sod the rest of them .. Us SJ's can enjoy the cookies. I'll just put the kettle on OK.

    It is sad that people will use unhealthy types as examples when we are not all like that. I think even if you don't usually get on with a particualr type, you should still try and make the effort. They may well be surprised and in return gain a new friend. Why limit potential allies due to past experiences.

    Or maybe i am just crazy, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiltyred View Post
    Which is more likely to lock their keys in the car and walk into furniture?
    Yes, IQ is one type of intelligence, my mum can't do them for anything, but her empathy and general emotional intelligence boggles the mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysavior View Post
    Just to be clear, my mom is an ISTJ, and I must say that she is WAAAAAAAY more aggressive than these ISFJs I know, so I'm somewhat used to it. But at the end of the day, the general bullshit still bothers me, and doesn't ever seem to go away.
    My mom is a hardass ISTJ too, but there are no games or reading between the lines with her. If "you done fucked up", you'll be notified as soon as it occured.

    The problem I have with ISFJs is that they have all these rules and values that are diametrically opposed to mine, which isn't that bad on its own... the actual problem is that they never tell you that you have offended their values (I'm guessing because they want to maintain the air of niceness and politeness). Of course, one magical day they can't stand the offense anymore and explode into my face, and I'm like "Where the fuck did THAT come from?"

    Now I can be OK with accomodating someone whose values differ from mine (usually), but if you expect me to accommodate you by reading your mind, well then, you've just dialed a wrong number daddio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post
    Sod the rest of them .. Us SJ's can enjoy the cookies. I'll just put the kettle on OK.

    It is sad that people will use unhealthy types as examples when we are not all like that. I think even if you don't usually get on with a particualr type, you should still try and make the effort. They may well be surprised and in return gain a new friend. Why limit potential allies due to past experiences.

    Or maybe i am just crazy, lol.
    mmm yes! That would be delightful. Then we can all sit around a table and discuss how we can ruin the lives of everyone by being kind ;]

    I deffinatley have to agree. I know several different types of people with different types. Their not all EXACALLY alike. Alot of it has to do with how you've grown up, experiences, what you want from life and a bunch of other things. It'd be pretty boring if we were all the same!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    My mom is a hardass ISTJ too, but there are no games or reading between the lines with her. If "you done fucked up", you'll be notified as soon as it occured.

    The problem I have with ISFJs is that they have all these rules and values that are diametrically opposed to mine, which isn't that bad on its own... the actual problem is that they never tell you that you have offended their values (I'm guessing because they want to maintain the air of niceness and politeness). Of course, one magical day they can't stand the offense anymore and explode into my face, and I'm like "Where the fuck did THAT come from?"

    Now I can be OK with accomodating someone whose values differ from mine (usually), but if you expect me to accommodate you by reading your mind, well then, you've just dialed a wrong number daddio.
    I can understand where your comming from. Poor communication, especially in ISFJ's result in all this stuff building up and finally they explode. Its natural for us to want to keep it in, but that doesnt make it right. I know I have to constantly remind myself to address people when somethings wrong or it'll eat at me. Its all about the maturity level, because its not too mature to keep the problem inside when you can deal with it right away and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayoitsStepho View Post
    I can understand where your comming from. Poor communication, especially in ISFJ's result in all this stuff building up and finally they explode. Its natural for us to want to keep it in, but that doesnt make it right. I know I have to constantly remind myself to address people when somethings wrong or it'll eat at me. Its all about the maturity level, because its not too mature to keep the problem inside when you can deal with it right away and be done with it.
    Yes, maturity plays a big role, especially when you are dealing with a person who views the world through a different prism.

    I can handle an immature ENFP with a lot greater ease than an immature ISFJ. Not that one is better than the other, but its easy to get blindsided when someone uses a different style of communication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    Yes, maturity plays a big role, especially when you are dealing with a person who views the world through a different prism.

    I can handle an immature ENFP with a lot greater ease than an immature ISFJ. Not that one is better than the other, but its easy to get blindsided when someone uses a different style of communication.
    Yes! Most deffinatley. It takes two different mature people to be able to understand eachother. I think thats what we're all here for, to be understood. Some just dont handle it well when others dont speak in their 'language', and end up hurt. I personally want to know more about others, so i have to push aside my 'feelings' for a short time to understand someone other than myself.

    Yeah, i can't handle an immature ENFP. But thats because im different then them in awhole lot of ways. So it'll probably end in tears on my part lol ;] but other than that, ENFP's can be enjoyable for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post

    Now I can be OK with accomodating someone whose values differ from mine (usually), but if you expect me to accommodate you by reading your mind, well then, you've just dialed a wrong number daddio.
    Touch. No time for bloody head games, say it how it is. Preferably upfront with no bullshit please.

    Quote Originally Posted by ayoitsStepho View Post
    mmm yes! That would be delightful. Then we can all sit around a table and discuss how we can ruin the lives of everyone by being kind ;]

    I definatley have to agree. I know several different types of people with different types. Their not all EXACALLY alike. Alot of it has to do with how you've grown up, experiences, what you want from life and a bunch of other things. It'd be pretty boring if we were all the same!
    Ruin the lives???? Oh no, i could never do that. Even people i don't like, i am still polite when speaking about them to others. I will just be kind, if that is alright with you. I will eat all your cookies though, Well i have just got my mum and sister to take the test and apparently we are all ESFJ (), we are so similar yet different. Hmmmm. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by saslou View Post

    Ruin the lives???? Oh no, i could never do that. Even people i don't like, i am still polite when speaking about them to others. I will just be kind, if that is alright with you. I will eat all your cookies though, Well i have just got my mum and sister to take the test and apparently we are all ESFJ (), we are so similar yet different. Hmmmm. lol
    ah, but see apparently we bug people by being...kind. lol. go figure, you'd think people would want that. I suppose not. I could never be intentionally mean, it doesnt work for me. ;]
    Well i had my mom take the test and she's an ISFJ like me...but i have some doubts...but then again maybe she's a straight up ISFJ. She deffinatley didnt give a hoot about all this. My sister is a ENFP i believe...i could be wrong since i cant remember. lol.
    I'm pretty sure my dads a ENTP. So you can understand im a bit used to being ignored and such ;]
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    Quote Originally Posted by ayoitsStepho View Post
    ah, but see apparently we bug people by being...kind. lol. go figure, you'd think people would want that. I suppose not.
    It is very confusing .. that is probably why i know a lot of people, but don't have many people i call friends. Maybe just 1 now.

    Do you ever feel like you are living in the wrong time and place? That you seem out of place? That being traditional, kind and respectful is no longer viewed as good and honest?
    (apologies, getting a bit deep there. )
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