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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmail! View Post
    Anyway, thank you to have taken time to answer these questions.

    I could have a few more questions to ask:

    A/ Do you consider yourself to be forgiving and tolerant?

    B/ How do you see political or philosophical debates? Annoying, or tantalizing?

    C/ Do you consider yourself to be "mainstream" or fairly conservative, politically speaking?

    D/ What is your reaction towards weird or unique people? Are you attracted (or not) towards originality, difference, and out of the norm behaviours? Or do they repel you, frankly?

    E/ What is your definition of an innovative or revolutionary mind?

    F/ Do you think it's possible for an ISFJ to graduate with a PhD Magna cum laude in Academia? If so, how do you imagine the scene, and how it would affect the style and the contents of the main thesis?

    G/ When you read them, do you sometimes think ENTPs are alien minds trying to invade Earth, and vice-versa?
    I like answering questions

    A) I do generally. I've discovered I'm far more tolerant and willing to overlook people's past mistakes than the vast majority of my peers. That being said, if you betray or serious hurt me, I'll eventually forgive you but I won't forget. I know ISFJ's are known for holding grudges and I'm sad to say that's true for me. Some of the relationships that I have with people today have been shaped by past misdeeds they committed against me years ago

    B) Annoying mostly, not because they're not worth having but because rarely do I see anything productive come from them, which is why I generally stay away from them.

    C) Conservative, yes, mainstream, no. All of the pundits and everyone of those clowns on Fox News can take a flying leap and a rolling doughnut for all I care.

    D) It depends, usually I try to be very tolerant and nice and it's worked out well for me. I know a lot of guys with really debilitating social or mental disorders for which I'm good friends with. One of my buddies at work actually is a guy who is slightly retard (in the clinical sense) that many of the other workers make fun because of his child-like nature of but for whom I've known for ever and get along with great. I've found that some of these people, while they may not possess the best social graces, are some of the most loyal and steadfast friends you could ever ask for.

    All that being said, I also know a few weirdos that are really annoying or disgusting and I generally try to avoid them. I had to get really hostile with one because he was making one of my lady friends really uncomfortable with his behavior.

    E) My definition of that would be someone who can look at a problem or situation and resolve it in a way that's not only completely different than what's been done before, but that resolves quicker and easier than before.

    F) Certainly, if it was on a topic that interested them. Anyone who's read more than a few of my posts could tell you that I get long winded when it's about something I feel strongly about

    As for topics, I would expect topics that revolve around issues that affect individuals personally but it doesn't have to be (FDG's example stands out as one I wouldn't expect but, hey, that's just me)

    G) NT's in general are the types I have the most difficult time, not because I don't get along with them (I do) but because they're just on a completely different wave length than me. As for ENTP's....no, they don't seem like aliens to me. Often times I can understand their logic and the reasons why they go about doing things and many of them can pleasantly surprise them. We and they just have different priorities I suppose. Sorry if that wasn't quite what you were looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post
    As for topics, I would expect topics that revolve around issues that affect individuals personally but it doesn't have to be (FDG's example stands out as one I wouldn't expect but, hey, that's just me)
    I think my post might have been slightly unclear. She modeled how to optimally price "rights to pollution", which means that firms have to pay in order to pollute - in such a way that pollution would be maximally deterred. That seemed to be (to me) a topic which would be easily compatible with feeling type preferences
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    I think my post might have been slightly unclear. She modeled how to optimally price "rights to pollution", which means that firms have to pay in order to pollute - in such a way that pollution would be maximally deterred. That seemed to be (to me) a topic which would be easily compatible with feeling type preferences
    Ah, ok. That definitely makes sense then
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    1/ Do you consider yourself ambitious?

    Yes. When I set meaningful goals for myself I become determined to complete them and usually do.


    2/ Are you attracted to ambitious/powerful/domineering people?


    Yes, definitely, but only if they're nice to me.

    3/ Do you think there have been times when you've been in self-denial, and if so, do you have an example?

    I constantly struggle with recognizing my strengths and my weaknesses. It's a daily struggle for me and it's all a big blur.


    4/ What is your reaction towards stereotypes, routine and cliché?


    Well, some stereotypes are true and some aren't. The untrue ones I will get upset about or will ignore them. Routines can be comforting but I am becoming good at recognizing when it's time for a change. That said ENxPs seem to need change a little too much for me. Clichés? I love them. They're often accurate and a nice guide to life even if they are predictable and boring and we want to deny them.


    5/ Do you consider yourself to be the ultimate conformist?


    I am actually the complete opposite. Liberalism has been "in" or considered the "best way to be" for a while now and I am conservative. I am considered a dinosaur and laughing stock for being conservative. It's the opposite of conforming by today's standards and not easy to be.

    6/ Do you consider yourself a perfectionist? Why? How?

    When it comes to certain ideals I have, yes. This is what dreams are made of. I actively engage my hope. I mean if I feel worn out I think it's okay to take a break but if I let my dreams die then I die.

    7/ Does elitism scare you?

    In a system that promotes fair competition, may the best man win. I believe in this so, no, it does not scare me.

    8/ Have some people already complained in the past you were "dull", "bland", or that you had a "bad artistic taste"? -3 questions-
    What was your reaction, then?


    Been called dull or bland? No, never, but I often feel boring. I have been told that I have bad artistic taste before but I thought my accuser had bad artistic taste too so that was a wash.

    9/ Do you think you can experience sudden feelings of epiphany at random? Has it already happened, somehow?

    Yes. It happens to me about once a month. But usually over trivial things because I think about trivial things a lot.

    A/ Do you consider yourself to be forgiving and tolerant?

    I am not sure. It depends on the circumstances.

    B/ How do you see political or philosophical debates? Annoying, or tantalizing?

    Annoying to participate in for sure unless my opponent is reasonable and not emotional (which is rarely the case) but I do like observing them from a far to keep my finger in the pulse of society, so to speak.

    C/ Do you consider yourself to be "mainstream" or fairly conservative, politically speaking?

    I live in California which is politically liberal and I am conservative so, no, I do not consider myself mainstream.

    D/ What is your reaction towards weird or unique people? Are you attracted (or not) towards originality, difference, and out of the norm behaviours? Or do they repel you, frankly?

    I am strongly attracted to independent thinkers so yes I like unique people. I will cease being attracted to them though if I detect malice, or if the attraction isn't returned.

    E/ What is your definition of an innovative or revolutionary mind?

    A mind that searches and searches for ways to solve problems in unique ways. One that makes a real and tangible positive impact on our society or world.

    F/ Do you think it's possible for an ISFJ to graduate with a PhD Magna cum laude in Academia? If so, how do you imagine the scene, and how it would affect the style and the contents of the main thesis?

    Yes, I do. I imagine it would be in social sciences or in the "caring" professions. And, yes, I do imagine there being some real difficulty in communication styles between NT professors and ISFJ candidates. It could pose a problem.

    G/ When you read them, do you sometimes think ENTPs are alien minds trying to invade Earth, and vice-versa?

    For sure!

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    Okay, it's time for more attention!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm View Post
    Okay, it's time for more attention!
    You're too funny Warm!

    Okie dokie though, question for my fellow ISFJs: How stereotypical of an ISFJ are you? Do you match the stereotype well or, if not, how much do you think you deviate from it?
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    fine... I'll give you another question

    why do IxFJs (my isfj mom and infj sis BOTH do this!) cry at the ends of happy movies? I don't get it... it's happy! you should smile! When I said this I got informed that it's touching... this does not compute
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    fine... I'll give you another question

    why do IxFJs (my isfj mom and infj sis BOTH do this!) cry at the ends of happy movies? I don't get it... it's happy! you should smile! When I said this I got informed that it's touching... this does not compute
    I'll take a stab at this, but...

    If I do cry while watching a happy movie it's usually because a really moving, emotionally touching scene has just played out. It's kind of embarrassing because men aren't "allowed" to cry during movies and I have to really restrain myself if in the company of people who don't know me very well for fear of being heckled.

    The reason why it affects us like it does (and this is just my 2 copper pieces mind you) is because we IxFJs deeply value affection and warmth. It's why we avoid conflict situations and it's why we often require a steady stream of affirmation from our partners: because what we want to feel both toward ourselves and toward others is affection and safety.
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    this would explain the yearly It's A Wonderful Life occurrance then... when I turn around to stare at my sis and mom when everyone's bringing George money and count down to the tears

    and the explanation of "but everyone's so NICE" *sniffle*

    does this mean that I'm an asshole for bringing the movie every year
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    this would explain the yearly It's A Wonderful Life occurrance then... when I turn around to stare at my sis and mom when everyone's bringing George money and count down to the tears

    and the explanation of "but everyone's so NICE" *sniffle*

    does this mean that I'm an asshole for bringing the movie every year
    Not at all. If they hated seeing it, they would tell you. Not all tears are sad tears
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