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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Alright, so in the type world, ISTJs get the reputation for being the most boring, humorless, uptight, and predictable type out of the 16.

    So my question for ISTJs is, assuming you disagree, what type(s) do you think tend to be more boring, humorless, uptight, and/or predictable than the ISTJ, on average?

    I better not get a predictable answer!
    INTJs. Or maybe ENTJs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raz View Post
    Uptight is subjective. I tend to think of feelers as being uptight. I get bored quickly by social rules dictated by FJs and I hate having my words prodded on by FPs. I have to censor myself around feelers, and it makes them boring.
    I have yet to find ISTJs uptight and boring. I think this is actually a stigma that causes some ISTJs to be confused with ISTPs in regard to MBTI. My second wifes husband(she coined me her technology husband without "wife" benefits :yim_rolling_on_the_) is ISTJ and we are alot alike on the outside. But Te is very blunt and I can easily see a need to have to censor it around F while she lets her Te run wild at times with him and he probably accepts it because he understands it. Just as he can probably let his Fi out around her as she accepts it because she understands it. My ENFJ wife has a huge issue with my sons NFP teachers Te emails when she tries to be objective. It has a more "logical" blunt flow where as Fe is more of a "feeling" flow which makes logic jump around a bit.

    My uncle is ISTJ and he can be more crazy then me in certain areas and it probably makes him appear ISTP as I can easily see him being pegged as an ISTP when he is confident and enjoying himself without a need to try to censor himself. But we are very different in the way we go about things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    I have yet to find ISTJs uptight and boring. I think this is actually a stigma that causes some ISTJs to be confused with ISTPs in regard to MBTI. My second wifes husband(she coined me her technology husband without "wife" benefits :yim_rolling_on_the_) is ISTJ and we are alot alike on the outside. But Te is very blunt and I can easily see a need to have to censor it around F while she lets her Te run wild at times with him and he probably accepts it because he understands it. Just as he can probably let his Fi out around her as she accepts it because she understands it. My ENFJ wife has a huge issue with my sons NFP teachers Te emails when she tries to be objective. It has a more "logical" blunt flow where as Fe is more of a "feeling" flow which makes logic jump around a bit.

    My uncle is ISTJ and he can be more crazy then me in certain areas and it probably makes him appear ISTP as I can easily see him being pegged as an ISTP when he is confident and enjoying himself without a need to try to censor himself. But we are very different in the way we go about things.
    I can put myself among INTJs or ISTPs and seem very similar to them. I tend to make ISTP friends easily, though. Te just feels really good, so it's hard to stop it once it gets going. Plus, I love attaching emotion to impersonal things just to see people's reaction to it. I love to analyze, it's what I do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raz View Post
    I can put myself among INTJs or ISTPs and seem very similar to them. I tend to make ISTP friends easily, though. Te just feels really good, so it's hard to stop it once it gets going. Plus, I love attaching emotion to impersonal things just to see people's reaction to it. I love to analyze, it's what I do.
    Yes, the only real problems I seem to have around IxTJs have to do with women and probably because of Te vs Fe. My lack of problems and comfort around women because of Fe and their issues with using Te around them. I have always had a need to try to tone down Fe around Te. Luckily Fi sees Te as such a strength because its an FPs weaker function that they become highly supportive of TJ use of it because they admire it.

    Its all really a balancing act that we put on.
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    So you are one of 3 ISTJ siblings and an ENFP? Anymore and what are their types?

    That's interesting....I'm one of 11, and while I haven't finished typing them all, I'd say I have one other ISTJ (estimated) brother who is 9 years older than me, but that's it. I think I have one IxxP brother, an ENTP brother (estimated), an ENFP sister (confirmed), ESFP sister (confirmed), ESFx sister (estimated), and the rest I have not typed.

    I think it's funny you can see the extremes in your family, with your brother who won't drive over the speedlimit- I think that's the image a lot of people have of SJs
    I also have an INTJ brother, an INTJ mom, and an INFP dad. Don't know about SO types in the siblings yet. That's cool that you have 11 siblings, wow. How much of an age range? Yeah, my dear older brother does have some issues with anxiety and guilt which makes him a bit hard to live with... For those who get upset with SJs like that, please also realize he is VERY softhearted and very romantic at heart and tends to always stop to help people with flat tires, etc. He just has a great deal of difficulty with being "open" with emotions all the time or changing course quickly.

    I have to censor myself around feelers, and it makes them boring.
    Raz, I think you might just have hit on it! I think THAT is what makes a person boring, no matter what the type, if we have to censor ourselves (IOW, suppress part of our essential being) around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajblaise View Post
    Alright, so in the type world, ISTJs get the reputation for being the most boring, humorless, uptight, and predictable type out of the 16.

    So my question for ISTJs is, assuming you disagree, what type(s) do you think tend to be more boring, humorless, uptight, and/or predictable than the ISTJ, on average?

    I better not get a predictable answer!
    I think the textbook description of an ISTJ is boring, but I'm a living contrast!

    I'd say that any IxTJ or ExTJ has the potential for being boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post

    As a manager you should trust when a person is over worked and recognize it and work to distribute it across the board by cross training. If you focus on deadline though the budget will work because of salaries. Sometimes you have to understand the leverage and all aspects and use it to your advantage in letting go of part of what you manage and let those areas manage itself focussing on what actually matters.

    This is what I'm trying to establish here...the ISTJ big boss has everyone siloed on respective teams, so there's no ability to slide in and pick up should somebody else be strapped. Now there's rumor that the ESTJ is interviewing ( I PRAY HE GETS THE JOB) and the ISTP is hinting on leaving too.. So boss man is trying to scramble and figure out contingency. If he was training across like I suggested this would not be an issue.

    This would also avoid the poor newbie being pigeon-holed with some routine requests and that's ALL he does. If we all chip in and do a little of the work, we'd all have time for the major stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    INTJs. Or maybe ENTJs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poki View Post
    I have yet to find ISTJs uptight and boring. I think this is actually a stigma that causes some ISTJs to be confused with ISTPs in regard to MBTI. My second wifes husband(she coined me her technology husband without "wife" benefits :yim_rolling_on_the_) is ISTJ and we are alot alike on the outside. But Te is very blunt and I can easily see a need to have to censor it around F while she lets her Te run wild at times with him and he probably accepts it because he understands it. Just as he can probably let his Fi out around her as she accepts it because she understands it. My ENFJ wife has a huge issue with my sons NFP teachers Te emails when she tries to be objective. It has a more "logical" blunt flow where as Fe is more of a "feeling" flow which makes logic jump around a bit.

    My uncle is ISTJ and he can be more crazy then me in certain areas and it probably makes him appear ISTP as I can easily see him being pegged as an ISTP when he is confident and enjoying himself without a need to try to censor himself. But we are very different in the way we go about things.

    I agree. I think because we take in a lot of what's around us (Si), we are very astute joke tellers. I read in some book that we are among the best joke tellers. I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amira View Post
    I also have an INTJ brother, an INTJ mom, and an INFP dad. Don't know about SO types in the siblings yet. That's cool that you have 11 siblings, wow. How much of an age range? Yeah, my dear older brother does have some issues with anxiety and guilt which makes him a bit hard to live with... For those who get upset with SJs like that, please also realize he is VERY softhearted and very romantic at heart and tends to always stop to help people with flat tires, etc. He just has a great deal of difficulty with being "open" with emotions all the time or changing course quickly.


    Raz, I think you might just have hit on it! I think THAT is what makes a person boring, no matter what the type, if we have to censor ourselves (IOW, suppress part of our essential being) around them.
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