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    Senior Member VagrantFarce's Avatar
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    Default SJs, where do your loyalties lie?

    And how have they changed over the years, if at all?
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    Loyalties lie with those who have proved trustworthy over the years.

    They have changed- there are people who I have been tight with from childhood, and we've gotten tighter over the years, but some of these people we've went our separate ways. Rarely is it based off of bad feelings- it's just that it was time to move on.

    Just because you're an SJ doesn't mean you are dog loyal to people and things.

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    I am only truly loyal to close-knit relationships (family, best friend, girlfriend) and am not very loyal to other friendships anymore.
    "Knights had no meaning in this game. It wasn't a game for knights."

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    Hmmm loyalties*:

    -Family
    -Friends [Best Friend(s) & Girlfriend]
    -Freedom**

    ** Allegiance to the United States Constitution (including ratified Amendments) and an oath to defend it against all enemies- foreign and domestic.

    *Things I would put my life in jeopardy for.
    Freedom Isn't Free. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    Quote Originally Posted by d@v3 View Post
    Hmmm loyalties*:

    -Family
    -Friends [Best Friend(s) & Girlfriend]
    -Freedom**

    ** Allegiance to the United States Constitution (including ratified Amendments) and an oath to defend it against all enemies- foreign and domestic.

    *Things I would put my life in jeopardy for.
    +1

    I couldn't have said it better myself, although I would rank my girlfriend along with my family, but that's just me.
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    Perfect Gentleman! =D d@v3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinker683 View Post
    +1

    I couldn't have said it better myself, although I would rank my girlfriend along with my family, but that's just me.
    ^

    With my ISTJ mind, I was trying to organize the list and figure out where I would put girlfriend.

    I was thinking about putting:
    -Family & Girlfriend +6mo. (As in, girlfriend I have had for more than 1 year)
    -Best Friends & Girlfriend -6mo. (As in, girlfriend from 0-6mo.)

    I do not know, that sounds kind of shallow. There is no way to know how I would feel, I'm just guessing.
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    My loyalties lie with those i am willing to take a bullet for. Family and friends.
    My loyalties can vacate the premises just as quickly as they are initiated
    What has changed over time .. Putting myself first.
    “I made you take time to look at what I saw and when you took time to really notice my flower, you hung all your associations with flowers on my flower and you write about my flower as if I think and see what you think and see—and I don't.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by d@v3 View Post
    Hmmm loyalties*:

    -Family
    -Friends [Best Friend(s) & Girlfriend]
    -Freedom**

    ** Allegiance to the United States Constitution (including ratified Amendments) and an oath to defend it against all enemies- foreign and domestic.

    *Things I would put my life in jeopardy for.
    I'am totally in the same way, and could actually say the same thing. Except that I'm not american, but I agree with the principles of the Constitution. I'm though far to be an SJ. They've not the monopoly of loyalty, fortunately.
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    I agree with saslou that over time, I have learn to put myself first. Otherwise, my loyalties lie with those who earn it, although I might give some family/relatives a pass/go card. I have been weeding out friendships like no other, this year. Trimming the list has never felt that liberating.

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    - Myself.

    Followed by these:

    Quote Originally Posted by d@v3 View Post
    Hmmm loyalties*:

    -Family
    -Friends (Edit: my best friend, and my other "soul brothers")
    -Freedom**

    ** Allegiance to the United States Constitution (including ratified Amendments) and an oath to defend it against all enemies- foreign and domestic.

    *Things I would put my life in jeopardy for.
    Although I´m not American, I defend the principles of my Country´s Constitution.

    "An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise."
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