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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Why frustrating? As an industrious and knowledgeable individual, you can be sure to succeed if forced to compete, right?

    It can help, but in some industries and or organizations, it's not what you know more so than who you know. So if the other guy's dad was frat with the CEO of the organization, he'll have an unfair advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    It can help, but in some industries and or organizations, it's not what you know more so than who you know. So if the other guy's dad was frat with the CEO of the organization, he'll have an unfair advantage.
    In some industries and/or organizations, people with no inventive juice, good at obeying orders and work method have an unfair advantage too.

    It's how the world works I'm afraid. The question is...why would you want to work in a company that favored you because your dad was frat with its CEO in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    In some industries and/or organizations, people with no inventive juice, good at obeying orders and work method have an unfair advantage too.

    It's how the world works I'm afraid. The question is...why would you want to work in a company that favored you because your dad was frat with its CEO in the first place?
    That's easy money!!

    In the firm I used to work, there were a few people that came through based on their parent's relationships with partners. And some of them were complete idiots, but since their daddies and mommies were important, they got by.


    I'd say a truly smart person will put in the time doing the mindless stuff if it leads to opportunity to use more of their talents in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    That's easy money!!
    Ah, now we get to the bottom of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    In the firm I used to work, there were a few people that came through based on their parent's relationships with partners. And some of them were complete idiots, but since their daddies and mommies were important, they got by.
    If they end up successfully completing their tasks I don't see a huge problem with it. If it's a private company that is. In some ways friendship is just as arbitrary a criteria as...say, grades out of school. Always had a problem equating good grades with talent.


    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    I'd say a truly smart person will put in the time doing the mindless stuff if it leads to opportunity to use more of their talents in the future.
    I'd say truly smart people have different goals in life. And that stoicism isn't necesserilly the harbinger of happiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post



    If they end up successfully completing their tasks I don't see a huge problem with it. If it's a private company that is. In some ways friendship is just as arbitrary a criteria as...say, grades out of school. Always had a problem equating good grades with talent.




    I'd say truly smart people have different goals in life. And that stoicism isn't necesserilly the harbinger of happiness.

    I wholeheartedly agree with the first point- that good grades does not equal talent. But in a world of tangibles, it's a good (not perfect) indication that you have some kind of understanding and can work hard.

    If you don't have to work for it through the good and the bad ,then is it really happiness? Nobody's saying you have to be stoic- there will be times when stuff just outright sucks, and you will be frustrated, but in the end you feel a sense of achievement copared to looking for the path where everything is handed to you, or easy.

    Besides what career or course of life is there where you don't put in your time before you start getting the major props?

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    I sub-contract to an onsite IT technical support company.
    So does that mean that i work for myself? haha.

    But bassicly since i left school... i've done everything from construction/demolition - to floor sanding... but i've always been into computers (since i was about 6)
    Oh and i'm sure most of you guys from the US are thinking "What... he left school????" yup.. left when i was 15. which isnt that uncommon here... but is looked down upon.

    I dont regret this decision at all...... but i had to compensate by doing 12 months 'training' with an IT company.. earning $6.50/hour (I could've got more working for McDonnalds?). but just having the 12 months experience, allowed me to get a role working in an "IT Helpdesk", earning $26/hour.

    And using the 8-10months experience with that company.. i now earn $45/hour........
    Life is what you make of it... not what college you goto/what contacts you have. just look for opportunities, dont get attached to jobs... and move up the ladder quickly/or if you cant... move on.

    Feel free to question any of what i've said
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    I work for the Ministry of Tourism, and I like it, but I know I wont be there for much longer, because Im working hard to leave it and land on a job that I REALLY like.

    I know that I will be more comfortable in a job related with what Im studying now, Advertising. Not for the creative but for the strategical side to it. Im more of a thinker than of a doer, so creating Advertising campaigns seems far more attractive than making tourism information databases.

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    Currently military (ready to move on) and aspiring cop.

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    I'm also a student, going to grad school to eventually earn a degree in Counseling Psychology. It's hard to explain, but I've always been really interested in learning how people reach their potential and if I could be a part of that I think it would be a really positive and enjoyable job.

    Obviously much more goes into Counseling Psych, and it's not all pretty, but I still feel very content with the path I've chosen profession-wise.

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