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    I think ESTJ's are ok as long as they do not try to control me. Well balanced ESTJ's would be like that, knowing when they need to control their Te in order to get along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Ah. Strangely, I get along much better with ESTJ men than ESTJ women, but being married to one, well...

    Be honest. He has good points, too.


    He honestly does, and I hope his next spouse can over look his thumb being on top of her 24/7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrushka View Post
    <snort>

    My dad retired as a Colonel, but my mom, (ESTJ) was always the Sargent Major.
    The prerequisite for a happy childhood is to identify (>salute) the boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    LOL!! Yes! I've seen this! You are so right!!
    Nothing to compare with a garage sale bowling trophy.

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    Honestly, every ESTJ I've met has been an unfair, unbalanced, easily angered, and an egocentric individual. I think the world would be a better place if they did not become college professors, or high school teachers. They're unfair graders. They hold grudges. They aren't good at teaching. They try to intimidate you, and get upset at people who ask clarification questions. They are much better suited for working in a bureaucratic field, where they can move up the corporate ladder by being cold and inconsiderate.

    The elderly ESTJ's I've met have been appalling. They don't care about future generations, in fact they're bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypomanic View Post
    Honestly, every ESTJ I've met has been an unfair, unbalanced, easily angered, and an egocentric individual. I think the world would be a better place if they did not become college professors, or high school teachers. They're unfair graders. They hold grudges. They aren't good at teaching. They try to intimidate you, and get upset at people who ask clarification questions. They are much better suited for working in a bureaucratic field, where they can move up the corporate ladder by being cold and inconsiderate.

    The elderly ESTJ's I've met have been appalling. They don't care about future generations, in fact they're bitter.
    I can share everything you say.

    The ESTJs tend to get upset of the non-standard.

    They are good at logic only in a most simple way.
    On the other hand they are diligent and penetrating.
    I say they are astute, sagacious and keen students.

    They take a piece of the bundle and they think it represents the ensemble.
    A poor course of strategy in any complicated pattern.

    Very often the ESTJs begin their studies with the natural philosophies.
    Or with mathematics.

    Eventually they tend to drop out at the beginning phase of their advanced studies (especially in math).

    They change to the humanities.
    Not to the belles-lettres, the polite literature.
    They are more ambitious. And less poetic.

    They enter linguistics, history or philology.

    An error.
    There the elementary deduction is even less useful.

    Eventually they crown their career in the high portals of the administration.
    They are better suited for working in the bureaucratic field no doubt.

    This is exactly why they should not be allowed to work in administration.
    It is there they create the maximum havoc.

    When they retire they leave behind waste and ruin.

    A blasted shame.

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    The one thing that sticks in my head is the image of Lucy (Peanuts) for the ESTJ's I know. When my soon-to-be ex is talking to me, sometimes all I hear is WONK WONK WONK WONK WONK WONK....he doesnt know when to stop...

    Good point regarding ESTJ: Not lazy!!! Hard working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlAmerica View Post
    The one thing that sticks in my head is the image of Lucy (Peanuts) for the ESTJ's I know. When my soon-to-be ex is talking to me, sometimes all I hear is WONK WONK WONK WONK WONK WONK....he doesnt know when to stop...
    <snort> I do this with my ISTJ sometimes, only it's "meow meow meow" - and I say it aloud as his cue to move on to another topic of discussion.

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    Really.

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    The only ESTJ I've ever known closely was a college friend. He was generally a solid, amiable person. Good head on his shoulders, very practical.

    It was amusing, though: whenever I needed to know exactly what the middle-of-the-road Joe America opinion on anything was, he was my go-to guy. It was like he plugged into a mainframe every night and downloaded his focus-tested battery of opinions.

    Every time he disliked a film, I knew I would enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediM05 View Post
    I get the impression from some forums that people often have the wrong idea of what type of person an ESTJ is. What are y'alls views?
    Hahaha, I'm sorry, I just have to laugh. My mother's an ESTJ, and personally, I think she's quite evil. But that's only when she's in a mood, (and that's all the time). But on those very rare occasions, when she's in charge, and everything is going right -in her head- she's not that bad, and I can actually stand in the same room as her and actually breathe. No offence to you of course, as for a friend, I never met an ESTJ, it's only my mother. :rolli:

    Other than this though, I can't really say much.

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