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    Default Things that give an SJ attitude/vibe

    Okay, I'm curious about something. What kind of movies/books/pictures/music/etc. have you found that you would say give you the strongest Si-ish/SJ vibe? I'm trying to get a "feel" for how SJs see reality. SPs just respond to what they see/sense immediately, and are fairly predictable in their motivations.

    It's harder to tell what SJs are responding to, though. All I can tell so far is that they desire structure the same way any other J does, and are a little better with details than I am. Nothing that gives me an idea of what kind of person they are, though. They seem to keep that to themselves.

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    Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but sometimes I can't enjoy a movie because what happens is too unrealistic. Like if somebody falls off a cliff and ends up living. Now mind you, I can understand and accept it if there's a cartoon/comedic effect to the movie.

    But some action/drama movies have some unrealistic, climatic parts to it that will force an impossible plot to come together. That's what I don't like.

    I'll have to think of an example.

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    I could never get into the vampires craze. It's just too kooky and unbelievable! I do, however, love zombies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    I could never get into the vampires craze. It's just too kooky and unbelievable! I do, however, love zombies.
    That's so funny, because I am totally addicted to True Blood on HBO and the Twilight series!

    The very best movies I have ever seen are the ones where I don't know what's going to happen. I HATE predictable movies! I also hate implausible plots (except for vampire ones, apparently! HA!) or scenarios. I like to watch a movie that I can lose myself in. Movies are one of biggest ways I decompress. I really hate "chick" flicks! Give me something I have to figure out. Has anyone seen The Skeleton Key? If my mind is busy working out what's happening in the movie, it's not think about money or work or job or kids, etc. And I worry ALL the time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IZthe411 View Post
    Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but sometimes I can't enjoy a movie because what happens is too unrealistic. Like if somebody falls off a cliff and ends up living. Now mind you, I can understand and accept it if there's a cartoon/comedic effect to the movie.

    But some action/drama movies have some unrealistic, climatic parts to it that will force an impossible plot to come together. That's what I don't like.

    I'll have to think of an example.
    I actually hate that too. Whimsical stuff has to have a symbolic element or I'm just like, "What?! That wouldn't happen in real life! :steam:".

    My ISFJ mom loves mysteries. They have the level of detail an SJ would appreciate; and often they tell personal, background stories of the people involved that an SFJ is going to love. As for the detail thing, my mom enjoys suspense movies for the same reason. I also notice that SJs love movies based on a true story.
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    That depends on what you mean. (Sorry, I haven't "been on" in a while. Just ghosting, mostly.)

    By getting the "SJ vibe", do you mean, "what you gravitate to"? I don't know if I could easily explain that, because from what I've been told, I listen to "iNtuitive music", and I apparently like comedy that uses a lot of Ne.

    My hobbies mostly consist of playing role-playing video games, reading (science-fiction/fantasy, some political, some sci-fi/horror) and listening to/playing music. They each fulfill a certain purpose.

    The RPGs satisfy my never-ending need to complete things. I get a sense of accomplishment, almost a joy. While the joy is never outwardly expressed, I do feel.....better, somehow. (This applies to almost anything I do, as well.) I don't recall the term for it, but I work for a self-satisfactory reason, for an internal reward. I require little "patting on the back" from other people. If I successfully finish something, the internal reward or high is generally all I need.

    Reading has a two-fold purpose. The primary purpose is to shut out everything else. By wrapping myself up in a fantasy world, I create a temporal sanctuary from the "outside world". The secondary purpose is intellectually stimulating. I like to "exercise my brain" by trying to figure out the plot in a novel, understand a character's viewpoint, etc, etc.

    The purpose for RPG's goes hand-in-hand with reading, in most cases, as well. I select RPG's based on their storylines and then everything else. A great example would be Bioshock, for the Xbox 360. I don't normally play shooters, but I loved the story. (And now I'm not too shabby at shooting.)

    Listening to and playing music is closely related to reading in the sense that I can put 110% of my focus on what I'm doing and simultaneously shut everything else out. I like the inner-peace it creates.


    Didn't mean for that to sound like a rant on my personal life. I am not completely sure if that answers your question either.

    The only other things I can think of that I do that are very Si / SJ -ish, as you put it, are as follows:

    I have a craving for knowledge. I read seemingly random news articles (on Yahoo! or in my paper) and I frequently (not on purpose) retain seemingly random information. I later insert this information in the form of small talk when I'm forced to do so (like when dealing with my customers).

    I also have this constant need to be useful and to "prove my worth". Not to society or anyone in particular, but mostly to myself. A selfish thing, perhaps. But it does benefit others on occasion. This is where a lot of my Te comes into play. I'm often told I tell things in too much detail, perhaps with my need to be useful going overboard.

    Some of my friends tell me I should be a teacher, even though I'd prefer not to be. I've also been called "the walking dictionary" by a few others. Not my favorite nickname.


    I'm having a bit of trouble comprehending your question. I'm really trying to help here. You mentioned what we respond to....? I suppose we simply respond to that which we like.


    Did that clear anything up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I actually hate that too. Whimsical stuff has to have a symbolic element or I'm just like, "What?! That wouldn't happen in real life! :steam:".

    My ISFJ mom loves mysteries. They have the level of detail an SJ would appreciate; and often they tell personal, background stories of the people involved that an SFJ is going to love. As for the detail thing, my mom enjoys suspense movies for the same reason. I also notice that SJs love movies based on a true story.
    OMG! Shuttup, my ISFJ mom loves mysteries too. And so does my ESFJ sister and grandma. Wow. Awesome. And they all look disgusted when unrealistic turns appear in the plot. (Though....anyone would be annoyed ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles View Post
    OMG! Shuttup, my ISFJ mom loves mysteries too. And so does my ESFJ sister and grandma. Wow. Awesome. And they all look disgusted when unrealistic turns appear in the plot. (Though....anyone would be annoyed ^^
    Two ISFJ women I know both enjoy German police/detective TV-series, probably because there crimes are rather ordinary (mostly murders I think) and not as high-flying as in their American counter-parts. They both also state that realistic movies are more interesting than fictive ones. They also like to see what "real life" was for people of different eras and status.

    I however am a complete opposite. I couldn't care less what a normal life was for 40's women during the war, or how people fared in the 18th century.

    I like all things epic and dramatic. Heroic is the keyword for me! I want to see heroic sacrifices made for the good of community, and moral dilemma risen by two opposing yet equal forces (order vs freedom, rationality vs humanity, community vs individualism). And I also like strong audio-visual experiences (like The Fountain and Pan's Labyrinth).

    But these might be more of ISTJ vibes, than SJ vibes... it's hard to say what all SJ types would enjoy the most.

    But probably SJ vibes mean that the movie has to be well-structured and within norms. I hated Funny Games, as it was a weird movie. It didn't deliver what I had expected of an ordinary horror movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallaciaSonata View Post
    That depends on what you mean. (Sorry, I haven't "been on" in a while. Just ghosting, mostly.)

    By getting the "SJ vibe", do you mean, "what you gravitate to"? I don't know if I could easily explain that, because from what I've been told, I listen to "iNtuitive music", and I apparently like comedy that uses a lot of Ne.

    My hobbies mostly consist of playing role-playing video games, reading (science-fiction/fantasy, some political, some sci-fi/horror) and listening to/playing music. They each fulfill a certain purpose.

    The RPGs satisfy my never-ending need to complete things. I get a sense of accomplishment, almost a joy. While the joy is never outwardly expressed, I do feel.....better, somehow. (This applies to almost anything I do, as well.) I don't recall the term for it, but I work for a self-satisfactory reason, for an internal reward. I require little "patting on the back" from other people. If I successfully finish something, the internal reward or high is generally all I need.

    Reading has a two-fold purpose. The primary purpose is to shut out everything else. By wrapping myself up in a fantasy world, I create a temporal sanctuary from the "outside world". The secondary purpose is intellectually stimulating. I like to "exercise my brain" by trying to figure out the plot in a novel, understand a character's viewpoint, etc, etc.

    The purpose for RPG's goes hand-in-hand with reading, in most cases, as well. I select RPG's based on their storylines and then everything else. A great example would be Bioshock, for the Xbox 360. I don't normally play shooters, but I loved the story. (And now I'm not too shabby at shooting.)

    Listening to and playing music is closely related to reading in the sense that I can put 110% of my focus on what I'm doing and simultaneously shut everything else out. I like the inner-peace it creates.


    Didn't mean for that to sound like a rant on my personal life. I am not completely sure if that answers your question either.

    The only other things I can think of that I do that are very Si / SJ -ish, as you put it, are as follows:

    I have a craving for knowledge. I read seemingly random news articles (on Yahoo! or in my paper) and I frequently (not on purpose) retain seemingly random information. I later insert this information in the form of small talk when I'm forced to do so (like when dealing with my customers).

    I also have this constant need to be useful and to "prove my worth". Not to society or anyone in particular, but mostly to myself. A selfish thing, perhaps. But it does benefit others on occasion. This is where a lot of my Te comes into play. I'm often told I tell things in too much detail, perhaps with my need to be useful going overboard.

    Some of my friends tell me I should be a teacher, even though I'd prefer not to be. I've also been called "the walking dictionary" by a few others. Not my favorite nickname.


    I'm having a bit of trouble comprehending your question. I'm really trying to help here. You mentioned what we respond to....? I suppose we simply respond to that which we like.


    Did that clear anything up?
    I love RPGs too- Right now I'm playing Zelda- Ocarina of Time- it's pretty good! I love the fact that Wii has all these games for cheap!

    I think the best RPG I've played was Final Fantasy VII. I think I almost dropped out of college for it. LOL.

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