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    Senior Member Koocoomoo's Avatar
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    Just don't give up.
    If they know you really care, they WON'T let you help them quickly, it takes TIME and patience.
    But if you stick around they should eventually let you help out.
    compliment them, let them know they are appreciated and all that good stuff.
    They need to feel useful.

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    Let them know that the facility is safe and secure from intruders, and tell them that cops are a phone call away.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koocoomoo View Post
    Just don't give up.
    If they know you really care, they WON'T let you help them quickly, it takes TIME and patience.
    But if you stick around they should eventually let you help out.
    compliment them, let them know they are appreciated and all that good stuff.
    They need to feel useful.
    Yeah, I've found that to be true.
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    No moss growing on me Giggly's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koocoomoo View Post
    Just don't give up.
    If they know you really care, they WON'T let you help them quickly, it takes TIME and patience.
    But if you stick around they should eventually let you help out.
    compliment them, let them know they are appreciated and all that good stuff.
    They need to feel useful.
    It is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneWithSoul View Post
    Let them know that the facility is safe and secure from intruders, and tell them that cops are a phone call away.
    Oh you. Be good.

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    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
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    Can I speed this up at all with icecream and cuddles?

    Sorry, sometimes I need to expedite things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Can I speed this up at all with icecream and cuddles?

    Sorry, sometimes I need to expedite things.
    Of course I'm going to say yes.

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    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggly View Post
    Of course I'm going to say yes.
    Good to know.
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    Wow...I could so see myself with the ranting about an argument or debate at work when I get home. Especially during PMS. Well, and having an idiot for a boss helps too (I found a new job, thank God.)

    But more to the point...as an ISFJ, here are my suggestions: Just listen to us. Say things like "That sounds frustrating" and "I'm sorry you had to deal with that" and if you do disagree with the "debater" on the other side, make it loud and clear! "That was really rude of her to say!" or "I canNOT believe she did that." After letting them blow off steam for a little bit, like everyone else said...distract them! Suggest something fun to do together. Tell them a joke you heard. If it's your significant other...after some time, say "Well, I think you're amazing...Hey, what do you want to do this weekend? Jim and Sandy invited us.....etc..." It's also a good time to bring up nice things that people have told you about them. "I forgot to tell you...I saw my friend Sarah the other day and she told me that she thinks you're really smart." DON'T make stuff up or be patronizing, cuz we can tell.

    With regard to us complaining or having a pity party -- I hate to say this, but I've been around many different personality types and everyone does it at one point or another...we all have our times! I remember when I was dating my INFP boyfriend...I would call him when I was feeling down and he would always say "I'm sorry that you're down...I'll be over in a few minutes and we can go get some ice cream." It might not be good on the waist line (but we can exercise it off...and exercise helps us feel better too!), but it worked wonders for me. My husband (who is an amaaazing INFP) knows just when to bring me chocolate. He also knows just when to say "Hey, you seem down...let's go for a walk and you can talk about it." This is a genuis idea..because walking gets the endorphins going and once I've vented and the endorphins are going, I feel better than ever when I get back from the walk!

    I would also say that I tend to hold things inside because I don't want to "bother" other people, so when I get down...I usually have many reasons that I just haven't articulated...and they can be big things. My 5 year old niece died 3 years ago and I get sad every year on her birthday. I won't tell anyone though...so some people might think I'm sulking or pouting or whatever...when in reality, I just miss my niece. I personally like my own space to deal with those things, so when my husband goes to play soccer or takes my boys for ice cream (those INFPs love their ice cream), he gives me space to work through things in my head and get myself back into a better place. I eventually will and I'll come back to normal. If he tries to get me to feel better or accuses me of being "whiny," I will fly into a rage and he won't know why until later (and then he'll feel really bad, because he understands me being sad about my niece.)

    And my INFP can get himself into big long funks sometimes as well, that last longer than most of mine. He has been complaining about his job for years and years and gets so unhappy on Sunday nights when he has to go to work the next day. He wants to be a writer and be creative, but he always seems to lack the follow through to figure what he wants to do and then make a change. I reminded him of the serenity prayer "Accepting the things we can't change, having the courage to change what we can and knowing the difference" that he will sometimes remind me of when I'm getting down. Compassion goes a long way.

    I have a question: Doesn't it seem like most things in life that upset us have to do with control? Whether it's control of ourselves or control of situations or control of others....it always seems to come back to control. Just my little philosophical thought for the day.

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    No moss growing on me Giggly's Avatar
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    Lambchop, (oh how I love that nickname), your INFP sounds darling.

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    He is pretty wonderful.

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