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    Default Famous dead Sensors

    What about the historical Sensors? I would guess those remembered for their skills on the battlefield would be good examples. Sensing was arguably a more important skill in the past, so there could be many examples. Life is much more abstract now.

    I've actually wondered if Abraham Lincoln was an ISTJ. I'm not certain as he could easily have been an N, but for some reason I have wondered. What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphne View Post
    I've actually wondered if Abraham Lincoln was an ISTJ. I'm not certain as he could easily have been an N, but for some reason I have wondered. What do you think?
    No.

    Next question.
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    Most people involved in politics probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonia View Post
    I've actually wondered if Abraham Lincoln was an ISTJ. I'm not certain as he could easily have been an N, but for some reason I have wondered. What do you think?
    Abraham Lincoln suffered greatly with bipolar disorder. I also believe he was a strong, "N".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhash View Post
    Abraham Lincoln suffered greatly with bipolar disorder. I also believe he was a strong, "N".
    Based on the David Herbert Donald bio I've read of him, he seems to be very much the "Ne" sort of INTP... more jovial and social than hard-assed and cold. Just read details of how he ran his presidency (and maybe how he even got there), and you'll see what I mean.

    He did suffer a great deal of depression. I'm not convinced he was manic, but the depression was notable and very heavy at times.
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    George Washington - ISTJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    George Washington - ISTJ
    That one's right. (even if it was MacG who suggested it.)
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    George Patton, FDR, JFK (all ESTP)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    George Washington - ISTJ


    Why? (Some commentators suggest that he was an ESFJ, I dont know enough about his life to see what his type was)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    Why? (Some commentators suggest that he was an ESFJ, I dont know enough about his life to see what his type was)
    if you read about his life, you'll see he wasn't really an E. He didn't really seem to enjoy the public life, he did it more of a sense of duty for his countrymen, and retired back to his own estates when it became feasible to do so.

    I think a Te/Fi combo (rather than Fe/Ti, which is what an ESFJ would have as two of the functions) is much more apparent in his behavior as well.

    he was also selected as a candidate for the first president because he had a positive reputation, was solid, and stable -- a rather low-key, respectable person the average citizen could look up to. Not exactly the typical positive qualities of an ESFJ leader, but definitely traits of a socially-well-adjusted ISTJ.
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