Tamske brought up an interesting point there. I do understand where the ESTJ's see their way as the truth rather than them pushing their opinion on someone. It seems though that the combination of this view, their directive nature and their dislike of vulnerability leads to pointing out other people's flaws/need to change but never to their own. I think people would not bristle nearly so much if it seemed like there were more give and take. However, when anything gets on that ground, most of the ESTJs I know shut down the discussion, leaving the other person feeling overly criticized and invalidated because it doesn't go both ways. I'm sure ESTJs are even more aware of their shortcomings than other people (they strike me as being unusually hard on themselves). Would it hurt to let others know they are aware they have shortcomings or things to change too?