Honestly, I have NO idea what that's all about. I wish I could help, but I just can't wrap my head around it! I mean, I had thought that ESTJs were into self-sufficiency, and yet this one you're talking about is getting a guy to do all her work for her. How hard is it to answer a text? I feel your pain.
Do you have any more details that could be helpful?
It's neither friendly nor possessive; it's just a plain answer. Something like: "She says she doesn't know."
If I had the low conscience to do it, I'd text him back with: "Did I text you? No? Then don't fucking reply to me."
Beh, forget it. I'll try and find an ENFP that doesn't try to bullshit me.
Do you know or have you met this person before? Do you know anything about said guy? I wouldn't jump to conclusions. However, from the tone of your last post it seems that this was the last straw for you...what are some other examples of her bullshit?
The ESTJ I have contact with always seems to need to have these orbiting but adoring people around him. Maybe to boost his ego? I have no clue. It's something I have noticed and called his attention to. He has never commented on it. (Of course).
Well, I hope things work out. Although, your ESTJ situation sounds a lot like mine. I'm not saying they don't have awesome points but their weaknesses are just sooo inadvertently hurtful. Be careful with this one. They always seem to know when you're pulling away...then they do just enough to reel you back in...and the cycle continues. I don't know.
If you are a logical thinker, then they can snow you with Te...make sure you aren't just using a logical premise to make decisions concerning ESTJ because that's what they rely on. Don't get me wrong...I love ESTJ's and I love the one I have close contact with but unless they're ready to deal with themselves and loved ones in their life in a mature way...it's back and forth
Things are working out great, actually. (I deleted some posts; I'm not proud of them) And when I thought about it, I realized that she wasn't stable at the time of my complaints, and that I couldn't judge her. The friend texting back thing was actually because she didn't have any left on her plan, but I still did feel a bit hurt that her friend, not I, was the one who got to have her feelings poured out to in the situation (I'm a counselor, dammit! Come to me for advice!). But I'm not now. Because that guy's just a friend.
...And I was never just a friend to her. I can see why she would feel embarrassed talking about a break up with a guy she likes.
So, EJCC, I'm wondering if your actions in the situation would be similar?
"Poor bastard. Wait 'till he sees the bats. "
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If I didn't have any minutes left on my plan, and I had to text somebody, then yeah, I would probably either ask someone to text them for me, or I would borrow their phone and say "Hi, this is EJCC on ___'s phone..." or whatever.
And about her "pouring out her feelings"... how do you know she poured them out at all? Did the friend tell you that she did? Because if it were me, I'm not sure if I would talk about it at all. To anyone. Except maybe one or two people (including my mom).