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    The Memes Justify the End EcK's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    Hug Davey, or try to beat me up.. either will work.
    I'm a bit picture guy, could easily do both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    Yeah, people don't learn themselves. Someone has to stand up and point to their flaws. INTJs are good at this, but we ISTJs can fare quite well too, if we just learn to be blunt.
    And how do you define what's the right way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    And how do you define what's the right way?
    My path?

    Seriously tho... I think the path that is least wrong is the right way. But that's a subjective truth, as the truth always is.

    A path that includes mutual respect and empathy can't be that bad, but isn't necessarily the right one either. One should always look for a more correct way of doing things. And I think this is the meaning of this thread... to understand what you might be doing wrong, and how you could improve it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    My path?

    Seriously tho... I think the path that is least wrong is the right way. But that's a subjective truth, as the truth always is.

    A path that includes mutual respect and empathy can't be that bad, but isn't necessarily the right one either. One should always look for a more correct way of doing things. And I think this is the meaning of this thread... to understand what you might be doing wrong, and how you could improve it.
    Aw?
    Crazy coincidence!
    I'm starting my own cult too !

    Expression of the post modern paradox : "For the love of god, religions are so full of shit"

    Theory is always superseded by Fact...
    ... In theory.

    “I’d hate to die twice. It’s so boring.”
    Richard Feynman's last recorded words

    "Great is the human who has not lost his childlike heart."
    Mencius (Meng-Tse), 4th century BCE

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    Eck, you can beat Habba up, or give him a hug. Sorry but, I'm just not the huggish type. Anyway, 99% of the time there is a right and a wrong, ISTJ's have a keen sense of right and wrong so it gets annoying when people do things wrong.

    I know it's not fair to say because techincally speaking it's the same as holding others to our standards, but really, three times in the same situation you would think people would learn!

    Habba is right, we don't like to point out peples flaws, unless we are really the blunt type, which I am usually not. I think we just end up fixing it for them and moving along. Perhaps that is why we are the "inspectors"?

    I have learned how to turn my bluntness on and off though. It usually get's used with people I am unhappy with at the time and it can also come out as or with sarcasm.

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    Well..

    I have a mild temper..
    I have mood swings quite frequently
    Sometimes, I'll goof off a little too much..but only on rare occasions
    I'm really lazy, and procrastinate too much.
    Is it that by its indefiniteness it shadows forth the heartless voids and immensities of the universe, and thus stabs us from behind with the thought of annihilation, when beholding the white depths of the milky way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d@v3 View Post
    Anyway, 99% of the time there is a right and a wrong
    Orly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    Orly?
    OK, maybe it's not THAT high of a percentage. But...you know what I meant, usually there is a right and wrong. Even if it's a cache 22, one way is must slightly better than the other. If not, you grit your teeth and you push your way through the situation at hand. Well, that's what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d@v3 View Post
    OK, maybe it's not THAT high of a percentage. But...you know what I meant, usually there is a right and wrong. Even if it's a cache 22, one way is must slightly better than the other. If not, you grit your teeth and you push your way through the situation at hand. Well, that's what I do.
    not really no.
    the better is the enemy of the totally new and awesomely cleva
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    Quote Originally Posted by EcK View Post
    not really no.
    the better is the enemy of the totally new and awesomely cleva
    What? Clever just means finding a way around the problem. I guess as an SJ I like to take the problem head on and deal with it, that way it won't come back to haunt me in the future. It can be a bitch but someone has to do it!... Tough as nails, mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    Yeah, people don't learn themselves. Someone has to stand up and point to their flaws. INTJs are good at this, but we ISTJs can fare quite well too, if we just learn to be blunt.
    Umm...that's not at all what I was referring to. My point was that what you see as "doing things wrong" may not be perceived by other types as "wrong" at all, and therefore they may not even be trying to do things your way. It would be a mistake to assume that this behavior is unintentional or somehow rooted in lack of understanding of the way you want things done. They may understand what you consider to be "the right way" but choose not to comply.
    If you could be anything you want, I bet you'd be disappointed--am I right?

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