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    We're a leaf on the wind, sweety...way more relaxed that way. But sometimes, we will 'manipulate' some stuff to get to the more favorable outcome

    And if you were to ask your ENFP-friend for a favor, I'm sure he'd bend over backwards to do so. In my case, my friends often use me as a back-up solution, due to my flexibility. If something goes wrong last minute, they call me. They know I'll free up my schedule any day for them, whatever it is they need
    And vice versa, they do me favors, such as let me know when to appear where, and plan out trips together, so I don't have to break my head over that. It's all about using the persons talents the situation asks for


    PS: I must admit this thread and the other one, the snow one, are quickly ensuring I'm becoming a fan of ISTJ-humor. You guys are killing me here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    They are? nooooooo.



    It's kinda true. ISTJs rarely need someone to look after them. Except when we first discover that we too have feelings at the age of 20. It's usually bit of a shock.
    LOL! I don't know that is what I was asking Amargith!

    Yes, I am regretting that my ENFP buddy is one state away while I am trying to get to know this ENFP girl..... Especially since he is the one who is always telling me I should get a girlfriend because I have always been too busy to have one! So... this situation sucks even more for me! Is it me or do the ENFP's tend to be the relationship experts?! That is what it seems like to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by d@v3 View Post
    So... this situation sucks even more for me! Is it me or do the ENFP's tend to be the relationship experts?! That is what it seems like to me!
    I think any non-ISTJ is an expert compared to ISTJs. I know many ISTJs who are completely lost when it comes to human relationships.

    Then again, they say love is irrational, and who'd better understand irrational things than NFs? Atleast I do believe whatever they have to say.

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    Dunno about experts, but relationships are a source of constant fascination to me, as organisation is to you guys, and theories are to NTs, I guess. Your ENFP-friend can still help you the way we are doing here, better even prolly, as he's likely to know you way better than we do here. He's probably way better even at estimating what you as a person need. It doesn't hurt to ask
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    We're a leaf on the wind, sweety...way more relaxed that way. But sometimes, we will 'manipulate' some stuff to get to the more favorable outcome

    And if you were to ask your ENFP-friend for a favor, I'm sure he'd bend over backwards to do so. In my case, my friends often use me as a back-up solution, due to my flexibility. If something goes wrong last minute, they call me. They know I'll free up my schedule any day for them, whatever it is they need
    And vice versa, they do me favors, such as let me know when to appear where, and plan out trips together, so I don't have to break my head over that. It's all about using the persons talents the situation asks for


    PS: I must admit this thread and the other one, the snow one, are quickly ensuring I'm becoming a fan of ISTJ-humor. You guys are killing me here

    So your manipulators too?! You mean... you play head games?! Is there anything else I should know before continuing to pursue this ENFP?

    Is it true that ENFP guys act completely different that ENFP girls? If that is so then I was wrong before and I HAVE NO IDEA what I'm getting myself into!

    Ahh... and when I first came to the forums all I heard were NF's beating up on the poor ISTJ's "dry/poor" sense of humor! We sure proved them wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Dunno about experts, but relationships are a source of constant fascination to me, as organisation is to you guys, and theories are to NTs, I guess. Your ENFP-friend can still help you the way we are doing here, better even prolly, as he's likely to know you way better than we do here. He's probably way better even at estimating what you as a person need. It doesn't hurt to ask
    I did ask! Unfortunately it was when he was preoccupied with something new he had just explained to me. So, from my experience with ENFP's, he wasn't giving me his full attention. LOL he told me "yeah, I know who she is... she seems really nice! I think you need to see her more face to face time with her" hence I sarcastically replied "yeah thanks for the news, I've been working on that!"
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    Our male brethren are definitely somewhat different from us, though the basics are still the same
    Manipulation is something we're occasionally accused of yes, but most ENFP's have core values that will prevent them from using it wrongly. Quite the opposite, I see 'manipulation' as a tool to smoothen out communication. I'm for instance likely to try and steer the conversation with you towards what I feel you want to say but are too afraid to say.


    Oh and hunny...you don't know what you're getting yourself into, so just get rid of that illusion. I know this is hard for you guys, but just try and enjoy the unfamiliar territory, the lack of control and the adrenaline buzz you get from it


    Edit: LOL, he needs more data to really help you out, sweety. Try again now that you can give him more to work with. And he has a point...you need more contact first
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amargith View Post
    Our male brethren are definitely somewhat different from us, though the basics are still the same
    Manipulation is something we're occasionally accused of yes, but most ENFP's have core values that will prevent them from using it wrongly. Quite the opposite, I see 'manipulation' as a tool to smoothen out communication. I'm for instance likely to try and steer the conversation with you towards what I feel you want to say but are too afraid to say.


    Oh and hunny...you don't know what you're getting yourself into, so just get rid of that illusion. I know this is hard for you guys, but just try and enjoy the unfamiliar territory, the lack of control and the adrenaline buzz you get from it


    Edit: LOL, he needs more data to really help you out, sweety. Try again now that you can give him more to work with. And he has a point...you need more contact first
    How do you know what we are afraid to say if we don't say it? Is that another manipulative trick?!

    So the keyword above is "MOST" ENFP's have the core values...

    GREAT, how do I brace myself for THIS impact?! How do I get myself into these situations? I should just go back to the snow thread where I belong!

    And getting contact with her is ALOT harder than it sounds...especially if you don't want to come off as a stalker! I got up early and went in to see her but she was nowhere to be found! She seems to be very elusive, but maybe it's just because our schedules are different. I shouldn't have tried to surprise her but I was going to seek retribution for the bench-right-inside-door trick she pulled on me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by d@v3 View Post
    I did ask! Unfortunately it was when he was preoccupied with something new he had just explained to me. So, from my experience with ENFP's, he wasn't giving me his full attention.
    I think it's rather hard to get full attention from ENFPs. They are so used to be with people, especially extroverts, that they might not fully understand what introverts need when they need for attention.

    Then again, they are NF, and they know everything!

    But now I'll help myself out. Need to be at work in less than 8 hours... Not very SJ to stay awake so late, now is it? This is me being a rebel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
    I think any non-ISTJ is an expert compared to ISTJs. I know many ISTJs who are completely lost when it comes to human relationships.

    Then again, they say love is irrational, and who'd better understand irrational things than NFs? Atleast I do believe whatever they have to say.
    LOL! I agree with you completly Habba!

    And no, you shan't be late for work! You will be persecuted by your evil SJ boss!
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