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    Talking any unorthodox ISFJ's out there?

    I think I saw a post similar to this a month back, but regardless, here I go.

    I just joined today (insert slient web applause here) and I've been reading through mainly the relationship section of this forum and whenever I read anything about interactions with ISFJs we seem to be characterized as maudlin, law-abiding, religious, overly serious and lacking any sense of humor, and comformist to society and I am not that way at all. I deeply relate to my type as an ISFJ, but there are some stark differences from how I feel people perceive us, how the test categorizes us, and how we actually are... Of course every person is different and some people have a greater percentage of how much I or S or F or J they are, and then in general each person in this world is unique regardless of how tests can categorize them. That goes without saying.

    Though the Myers-Briggs type indicators are very impressive at their categorizations. :-)

    So back to the subject title and question in hand, WHO OUT THERE FEELS THEY DON'T PRECISELY FIT THE MOLD OF THE ISFJ WHILE STILL GENERALLY RELATING?

    About myself and why I'm curious to ask this:

    I took this test for the first time in 2005 and feel like I was 95% ISFJ then. I retook it recently and I am still an ISFJ but now I feel maybe around 70%. Life experience has definitely contributed to that. Back in 2005, I was as quiet as could be to basically anyone excluding a very small group of friends. I was a straight A student who avoided other people and liked to be a teachers aide and just help my superiors out for fun and to be respectful. I was open with my friends only and was always the witty jokester of the group-- but strictly to them. In class and work and the rest of life, I was obedient, helpful and definitely non-confrontational. I had my heart broken around that time and I solemnly accepted it but suffered daily. I had to go through counceling I was so heartbroken over it. I was cautious of life, any experience-- I didn't dare even think of drugs or alcohol nor spoke to anyone who mentioned it; stepping on any property past closing time made me overridden with guilt and paranoia; I was steadfast in obeying every law, rule or order ever given to me by anyone older than myself and was entirely closed minded; I was very moral bound though not religious (thus why I was 95% not 100% ISFJ).

    Later on that year I began my slow decline away from my personality type "extremism", mainly because I began dating some rastafarian-type dreadlocked guy and because I adored him so much and would do anything to make him happy, I started smoking marijuana. You know how that goes, lol. So that totally blew my mind and altered my perception on everything. Because of that, and other things that happened in my life, I am significantly different now. It planted a seed of distrust in what my family, teachers, and authority figures told me about the world. Further revelations have made me incredibly antiestablismentarian - I near completely distrust everything in the government (with the exception of the ideals of libertarianism, constitutionalism, etc), and verbally lash out against any injustice I think is perpetrated on anyone. I research anything I am unsure about, or anything someone tells me is fact (except obvious things like "hey your asian" or
    "hey you are made of molecules"). At least in respect to people I know, I used to just cry over everything and give anyone the silent treatment if I felt hurt (which happened easily and often back then), and now I'll tell someone exactly how I feel, especially if i'm angry. I try to have a rational discussion with someone and express how I feel to the best of my ability. I'm now open minded and much more emotionally stable. I'm much less traditional now, though I still demand respect and give everything I can to everyone I care for. I don't go around being a "lady of the night" or anything, i do nothing that would make me seem disrespectful unless they deserve it. I always try to do nice things and care for others. I'm a big believer in random acts of kindness. I'm going to become a doctor of naturopathy to help others that I don't know become healthier and change their lifestyles from full of whatever poison corporate america convinces us is fine -- altered foods and pharmaceuticals, all that-- to something that truly works and improves well being.

    I'm very different than I used to be and feel that its possible to be a rational person and analytical thinker, while still being an ISFJ. I don't let my feelings overwhelm me, though they do guide many of my decisions. I've also become more extroverted to the point where I don't want to run away everytime I meet a new person. I have an incredibly bold, inappropriate, sarcastic sense of humor to the point that I shock people constantly when I'm open and just messing around. I've always been that way, but now instead of me restricting it to maybe 10 people (if even), I act that way to near everyone as long as its not me making a first impression on someones parents or in a job interview-- situations where its obvious I need to not make "that's what he said" jokes or anything else that would make old ladies cry if they heard it. So yeah, needless to say, not incredibly typical.

    How about you all?

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    ^He pronks, too! Magic Poriferan's Avatar
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    Unrelated to all of that... I appreciate your avatar.
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    That's what you get for being open-minded and following impulses. It's a bad, bad, horrible idea. Go back to being the way you were before, trust me.
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    I'm not an ISFJ, but I think very few people fit the description perfectly. of course I'm the proto type for INFP and I didn't mean to.
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffster View Post
    That's what you get for being open-minded and following impulses. It's a bad, bad, horrible idea. Go back to being the way you were before, trust me.

    lol Jeffster.

    First, hello and welcome earthangel!

    Next, it's okay to feel like you don't fit neatly into a little box!

    If you really want to type yourself correctly, you might spend some time exploring if your preference is really for J or P.

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    IRL is not real Cimarron's Avatar
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    I bet there's plenty of "wiggle room." There are tons of ISFJs out there. You think they're all the same?
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    isfj.....im not religious but i kind of follow my own thing. im still in the works of figuring out what it is though. and i smoke weed too.....i'm also pretty witty and funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmm View Post
    lol Jeffster.

    Next, it's okay to feel like you don't fit neatly into a little box!
    Amen!!!

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    My closest friend in the real world is not the traditional rules ISFJ either, it's why I kept second guessing her type for so long.

    She ran away from home as a teen to join the travellers and lived on the road for 10 years, experiencing pretty much everything you can on the edge of the law and beyond it, done more illegal activities than I have lol complete and utter rebel with no trust for the government, or people in charge in any given situation.

    Although she is more settled now and more law abiding, she is still one of the black market type people that would drop kick an officer in a heartbeat.

    She is very untraditional and that's part of her wonderful appeal.
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    Well, what you say seems to be perfectly compatible with being ISFJ. I know a good number of ISFJs that aren't as perfectly coscentious as the description says. Thing is, the point of reference of an ISFJ will generally be the people he-she cares about and meeting their expectations. If those people don't place restrictions on them, then they can easily become very extraverted and liberal.
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