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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    From the On A Team section here.

    Based on this stuff, it seems to me a lot of INTXs here might really be repressed or shy ENTXs.

    Hi all, I'm new so take it easy on me...at least for a few weeks.

    I don't think I'm a repressed ENTX...my day is filled with forcing myself to be an E. And then I have to decompress and get away from EVERYONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    And you may not realize it yet, but my logic is perfect! My mom's ENTP boyfriend even said so!
    You know ENTPs -- he was just trying to be argumentative, and you agreed with him instead...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    Based on this stuff, it seems to me a lot of INTXs here might really be repressed or shy ENTXs.
    Among extremely close relations, I'll beat a dead horse beyond all recognition.

    If it's not resolved, if it's obviously not dealt with, and if it's simply going to happen again, I'll keep trying to inject a rational and considerate mindset into the mix.

    Don't make me get all ENTX here.

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    Interesting. Is it accurate?

    Always interested in having matters resolved, especially consequential interpersonal conflicts, I will regularly and directly raise the issue with those who are authorized to make the decision, until it is settled. Withdrawing from a room or conversation, one that does not include someone who is out of control, I find puzzling and counterproductive; and would never resort to it. In policy, deference simply out of a desire for self-preservation irritates me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opivy1980 View Post
    The INTJ stuff is right on that is how I handle conflict I just ignore the other person and write them off if no progress is made.
    Ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by Uberfuhrer View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if I am an Extravert -- a lot of people who don't know me often think I'm extroverted, because I act goofy.
    Introversion is about going within to get energy. I happen to be a more extraverted INTJ because I was culturally socialized in an Italian family that welcomed people into their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhash View Post
    Introversion is about going within to get energy. I happen to be a more extraverted INTJ because I was culturally socialized in an Italian family that welcomed people into their lives.
    YAY!!! See! See! This is one of the factors that IS taken into account when the MBTI is translated into other languages--cultural pressures have to be accounted for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rivercrow View Post
    YAY!!! See! See! This is one of the factors that IS taken into account when the MBTI is translated into other languages--cultural pressures have to be accounted for!
    Definitely. Americans are so... Americacentric!

    I have been reading about Bible interpretation and analysis, and it's the same thing -- what looks obvious or the "simple reading" on the surface doesn't mean anything like that, because we are overlaying our cultural perspective and background overtop the text. It's the exact same sort of mentality... part of it is laziness, part of it is simply not being aware of what the differences are because we don't even realize there ARE distinct differences.
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    The MBTI is a deceptively simple tool. Soooo sweet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhash View Post
    Introversion is about going within to get energy.
    Some MBTI-based systems emphasize that more than others; and yet most temperaments supposedly drawing energy from social interaction are described as gregarious.

    That's relevant to me, insofar as while I don't actively seek social engagements, don't gladhand at them and quite enjoy solitude, I usually find myself catalyzed at the end of a social evening. I usually disengage from a given crowd at a point where my time no longer seems like my own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    And the ENTP description fits much with my "arguments" with ENTPs -- even the parts I find frustrating (like the "manipulative" part... for a long time, I just didn't understand what was going on, they just seemed purposefully argumentative).
    For the record, Jennifer, I am NOT argumentative.

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