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[Fi] I don't know why I'm feeling sad,

DigitalMethod

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"I don't know why I'm feeling sad. But I am. Please don't ask me what is wrong, if I knew, I would fix it."

Anyone relate?
 

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Yes. I don't feel that way today but I have before and likely will again.
 

Mempy

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Yes, very much so. I feel that way a lot of the time.
 

blanclait

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relatively common for me.
that sadness soon became my norm.

but how intense is it? i feel bit agitated, and bit depressed. But never at a point of wanting to hurt myself, etc. Depending on the severity and if it does have some major impact in your daily activities, you may want to check that out.
 

DigitalMethod

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But doesn't it seem paradoxical?

It makes complete sense.
Yet how is it ever fixed when one never learns the problem.

I guess what I am asking is, how do you guys deal with it, what eventually has helped you solve it, what has eventually helped you feel better?
 

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If I have nothing concrete to anchor the mood to, then distraction is my weapon of choice most of the time. Just get out of the house and do something different, or something that has reliably changed my mood before. The few times I've found to have an unshakeable low mood or numbness that I couldn't be distracted from, I sought the assistance of a counselor which seemed to help, or maybe it just passed.
 

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No, never happens. At worst, I'm bored.
 

WobblyStilettos

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This is a concept that my therapist fails to grasp, so she hasn't come up with any ways to deal with it yet (and if I knew, I wouldn't be there)

I hope you feel better :)
 

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Sometimes I feel a negative emotion which remains constant until I realize the cause, then it recedes.
 

sleeptowin

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It happends.

When it happends I just try to take that feeling as it is and walk through it, if you know what I mean. In my case, I know that there usually is a reason for me feeling that way, when I'm feeling that way. I try to find out what might be troubling me, and if I find the reason, well, the bad feeling just kinda recedes and becomes manageable. If I for some reason can't find a reason, for instance, because I'm too troubled to think clearly, I just ride it through. I guess that, at that point, I tell my self that there is no point in bothering one self too much with things that doesn't make any sense.

I don't know if I made any sense right now, but, well, there you have it, my way of dealing with it.
 

DigitalMethod

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It happends.

When it happends I just try to take that feeling as it is and walk through it, if you know what I mean. In my case, I know that there usually is a reason for me feeling that way, when I'm feeling that way. I try to find out what might be troubling me, and if I find the reason, well, the bad feeling just kinda recedes and becomes manageable. If I for some reason can't find a reason, for instance, because I'm too troubled to think clearly, I just ride it through. I guess that, at that point, I tell my self that there is no point in bothering one self too much with things that doesn't make any sense.

I don't know if I made any sense right now, but, well, there you have it, my way of dealing with it.

No, it made complete sense to me.

I just don't want to go through this feeling because I just felt it two months ago.

And I also am having trouble rationalizing it without telling myself I'm over-reacting. But you can't tell yourself "You're over-reacting" when it's past a certain pain 'threshold' or pain 'level'. If that makes sense?
 

sleeptowin

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No, it made complete sense to me.

I just don't want to go through this feeling because I just felt it two months ago.

And I also am having trouble rationalizing it without telling myself I'm over-reacting. But you can't tell yourself "You're over-reacting" when it's past a certain pain 'threshold' or pain 'level'. If that makes sense?

Yes, I think I know what you mean. When you're at that point, from my experience, the only thing you can really do is to ride it out, and try to avoid to think about it as much as you can.

But these are just words on the interwebs, in reality, it's not easy, it's not a problem that you can always fix, it's a/several pain(s) in the ass(es) emotion(s) that you run in to from time to time, and they're bound to return, from time to time, unfortunately.

Problems, in all of it's shapes, sometimes have that nasty character.

(My problem now is that I fear that I might have misunderstood what you wrote earlier :()
 

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Did you see, hear or "sensed" anything that made you remember something unpleasant.
Or maybe it's just one those very crappy days. How long did it last the previous time?
 

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Yet how is it ever fixed when one never learns the problem.


You don't always need to know what causes an emotional problem in order to fix it, if that helps.

As blanclait mentions, it can become a habit, this pining thing. Suppose you could call it existential grief.

"It is the blight man was born for
It is (self) that you mourn for."

Gerard Manly Hopkins. "To Margaret, Spring and Fall."

I am susceptible to this and take some effort to avoid in engaging it for any length of time.
 

DigitalMethod

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Did you see, hear or "sensed" anything that made you remember something unpleasant.
Or maybe it's just one those very crappy days. How long did it last the previous time?

Well this would depend on one's definition of 'sensed'.

'Sense' to me is basically like saying "I think something happened" IE, sense is a combination of all the senses including intuition.

So according to my definition of sense, I did sense something that happened which triggered past feelings on a similar matter. Which were in turn amplified due to... the... more, meaningful depth that I currently have on this present matter. IE the present matter means more to me than the past one did at it's time of occurrence.

This time I was able to rationalize it faster due to past experiences and good advice, also a lucky enlightening moment. Even though it was only about two days this time, the depth of pain was more intense than last time (due to it's more meaningful depth). Last time it was more drawn out over a week's time.
 

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It's possible to never know the cause but the symptoms can still be managed. Sounds like this is what you're doing.

Should it be persistent over time, it would be worth getting additional help from someone who could approach it from a clinical perspective.
 

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I don't think you can escape it in this world. I'm learning more and more to not even bother asking why I'm feeling miserable, just get on with it, despite how you feel.
 
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