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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I understand that completely. NTs aren't usually fond of intervention, regardless of how well they're solving a problem. So the NT needs to be self-correcting more than others.

    Just because he needs to be, doesn't mean he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post

    Just because he needs to be, doesn't mean he is.
    It's got to be kind of one of those things where you've got to convince them without them noticing. Or else it fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post

    Just because he needs to be, doesn't mean he is.
    It doesn't matter; same net result. If I don't want your help, I'll fight back with all my functions, then once you've given up, and you will, I'm right back where I started, figuring it out myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    It doesn't matter; same net result. If I don't want your help, I'll fight back with all my functions, then once you've given up, and you will, I'm right back where I started, figuring it out myself.
    Explain to me how that makes you healthier/less neurotic than the average NF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    It's got to be kind of one of those things where you've got to convince them without them noticing. Or else it fails.
    lol. Yes, and when you're dealing with someone who's extremely perceptive, the ruse can be worse than directness. Oh, the memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Explain to me how that makes you healthier/less neurotic than the average NF?
    It doesn't. I've only been talking about people with afflictions, of which I and the average NF are free from at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    It doesn't. I've only been talking about people with afflictions, of which I and the average NF are free from at the moment.
    Evasion -10 pts.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    Explain to me how that makes you the average NT healthier/less neurotic than the average NF?
    Fixed.

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    lol. Yes, and when you're dealing with someone who's extremely perceptive, the ruse can be worse than directness. Oh, the memories.
    uh huh. One thing that will get me downright nasty to the point of sadism is people who think they can "fix" me by indirect manipulations, so they'd better be extremely talented at being subtle yet effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    lol. Yes, and when you're dealing with someone who's extremely perceptive, the ruse can be worse than directness. Oh, the memories.
    Yes, but if you've kept it going for long enough and you're found out, they may be lucid enough to thank you for it.

    Begrudgingly, of course. Because that's how NTs are with this sort of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
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    Again, the average NT and average NF are both "healthy."

    It still seems to me the average adult NT might be better equipped to ward off and deal with neuroses if under their assault.

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