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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Note to self: Don't depend on INTPs to be objective about their objectivity.

    That'd require them to actually come up with reasons for putting themselves first.
    Note to self: INTPs are more objective than ISTPs as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Note to Colors: Analyze behavior, speech, etc., not fabricated function orders.
    Wait, isn't MBTI about information gathering and processing?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Note to self: INTPs are more objective than ISTPs as well.
    Heh, still waiting for your justification of beliefs, oh objective one.

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    What does "objective" mean?

    Are you referring to an opinion free from extraneous influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Via your ad hominem attack, you have demonstrated your unobjectivity. Additionally, if your fury were lessened by calm, rational thought, you might have noticed that I was in fact elaborating humorously while claiming I never would.
    Stating a fact is now a sign of unobjectivity?
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Heh, still waiting for your justification of beliefs, oh objective one.
    *sigh* As stated, I am far too objective to feel the need to prove anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    *sigh* As stated, I am far too objective to feel the need to prove anything.
    Or too subjective to see your own subjectivity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    Stating a fact is now a sign of unobjectivity?
    It depends on the fact. When I stated the facts contained in my Objectivity Scale, I started to feel slightly unobjective, but still in the green.

    Quote Originally Posted by ptgatsby View Post
    Or too subjective to see your own subjectivity.
    My subjectivity is like a tiny, tiny mouse, and my objectivity the tiger who hungers for it, though it would make an unworthy meal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    What does "objective" mean?

    Are you referring to an opinion free from extraneous influence?
    See OP for the definitions. In my words, however: Being objective is making analyses, decisions, speaking and taking action with a big picture view in mind, as opposed to large concern for self interest.

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    I only ask, Jack, because your first bullet point nullifies the sense of objectivity you were seeking.

    I presume this was intentional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    ...My subjectivity is like a tiny, tiny mouse, and my objectivity the tiger who hungers for it, though it would make an unworthy meal.
    Still gunning to support that N read, huh?
    Nice metaphor, tho.

    Hmmm. Did you know that NPG likes to kill mice?
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