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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    An agenda isn't an idea. It's a goal.
    Yes. I realize that.
    So the only way a person can be objective is if they don't have a goal?
    You mean they just sit there having random thoughts with no purpose?
    How do you know when you're done thinking?

    How can you know if you're being objective unless you can also determine when you're not being objective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    An agenda isn't an idea. It's a goal.
    These are quite tightly constrained definitions..

    Personally I would say that any concept not put into reality yet is an idea. Including plans, targets and goals.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    If I were to chose one then out of those four... probably INTJ. Though if you check, with each refinement of definition I've chosen a different type.
    sheesh...these bloody INTJs - never make up their minds about anythin'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    That's only 'cos we pwn you in debate.
    Blah! Blah! Blah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    Yes. I realize that.
    So the only way a person can be objective is if they don't have a goal?
    You mean they just sit there having random thoughts with no purpose?
    How do you know when you're done thinking?
    The nurse brings your next dose.
    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    How can you know if you're being objective unless you can also determine when you're not being objective?
    #1 You get typed as an NT.
    #2 You read the profile.
    #3 You believe everyword but ignore the bit marked "weaknesses".

    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    These are quite tightly constrained definitions..

    Personally I would say that any concept not put into reality yet is an idea. Including plans, targets and goals.
    You're just arguing the sake of arguing. I can dig that.

    An agenda is not a concept. Buy a dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    sheesh...these bloody INTJs - never make up their minds about anythin'...
    Never a truer word said in jest.

    Odd that it's never really admitted.


    (The plot thickens)
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluemonday View Post
    You're just arguing the sake of arguing. I can dig that.

    An agenda is not a concept. Buy a dictionary.
    Ooo appealing to a higher authority.... minus ten demerits.


    NEXT!


    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    So the only way a person can be objective is if they don't have a goal?
    What I mean is that the having of a goal must of necessity distort one's objectivity.
    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    You mean they just sit there having random thoughts with no purpose?
    pleased to meet you.
    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    How do you know when you're done thinking?
    my work is never done.
    Quote Originally Posted by INTJMom View Post
    How can you know if you're being objective unless you can also determine when you're not being objective?
    You have to be objective about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander View Post
    Ooo appealing to a higher authority.... minus ten demerits.


    NEXT!


    Minus a demerit? That's a plus right? Woot! 10 points for me.

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