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    most people, both S and N, are a lot closer to the center line that they get credit for being... bell curves and all of that. the idea that there is some sort of stark dichotomy between sensing and intuition is a myth propagated by websites that just skim the surface as opposed to looking at things a bit more closely... it's sliding scales and we're all shades of gray.

    attitude with which one takes things makes the biggest difference... any of the MBTI dichotomies can make a person feel alien if they sit and focus on the differences (i.e. being a woman with a traditionally "masculine" personality type) which means that if you want to slip effortlessly through society the easiest thing to do is to focus on the similarities instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss fortune View Post
    most people, both S and N, are a lot closer to the center line that they get credit for being... bell curves and all of that. the idea that there is some sort of stark dichotomy between sensing and intuition is a myth propagated by websites that just skim the surface as opposed to looking at things a bit more closely... it's sliding scales and we're all shades of gray.

    attitude with which one takes things makes the biggest difference... any of the MBTI dichotomies can make a person feel alien if they sit and focus on the differences (i.e. being a woman with a traditionally "masculine" personality type) which means that if you want to slip effortlessly through society the easiest thing to do is to focus on the similarities instead
    perception is so subjective tho - phobik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargaze View Post
    Just because intuition is rarer than sensing doesn't make you automatically ostracized from society. I always had trouble understanding other people and not fitting in too, and I'm a sensor. I also knew intuitives who got along well with other people. Maybe you should take a good look at yourself and try to see maybe if there is something you can work on instead of just pointing your finger at other people. That is the great thing about typology; it not only helps us in understanding ourselves, but it can help us understand other people too.
    I'm another Sensor (ISFP in fact) who's felt out of place just about everywhere I go, and that's part of why I typed as an iNtuitive. How does that even happen, I wonder now? It seems a natural consequence that someone who thinks totally differently, who processes information and looks at the world in a totally alien fashion and is naturally strongly attuned to the deeper aspects of life, would end up being ostracized out of envy or perceived danger.

    But how does someone who's just like everyone else fall into the delusion that they're a misfit?

    Sorry for ranting, but sensor bias is a big pet peeve of mine and is one of the main reasons why I didn't want to come out as a sensor in the first place, because I was afraid people would see me as a simple-minded zombie that just goes about my day and doesn't care about anything with deep thought. Hopefully you can interact with some of us on here and your mind can change.

    Well, you are, by default. Several people here have already pointed that out.

    Then again, I mistyped as an N for a couple of years for fear of confronting the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechnick View Post
    I don't understand damn Sensors. Why are they a majority? Even if I am a rationalist, it so hard to understand and be understood by Sensors.

    Any similar experience? Do you as a Rationalist find yourself trapped in the invisible web of Sensors? Fuck Locke, I wanna Descartes!

    Why rationalists are a minority?

    And then, they (the majority of the populations) ask thyself why he is so tough-skinned, aloof and independent? Why is he must go against the stream?
    Seriously, the world couldn't run without the Sensors. Drop the shitty attitude about them. Find one. Get to know them. They just won't admire you the way 3's need people to do so, be prepared for rejection.
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    You can learn how to adapt, but you will always be a minority. All sensor who I know have a jobs, they listen and obey, they like hierarchy.
    There is always one sensor who is at charge.
    I don't hate Sensors, I do like manny of them, but sometimes, they are annoying.
    I came to this forum to learn some Sensors stuff. And to find fellow NTs and share experiences.

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    Well you're in a trap:

    If you stay here. You'll just end up having to respect everybody.

    If you go to those fb purist groups. Trust me, those sensor mistypes wear intuitive hoods. Or intuitors.

    Pick your poison. A lot of people seem to take others by face value. So be it.

    I much prefer this site, and that's healthy thinking to accept those of who they are. You know I love self-aware sensors. And I dislike non self-aware sensors who disguise themselves as intuitives. But that's my individual problem it seems.

    Can't have everything I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    Seriously, the world couldn't run without the Sensors. Drop the shitty attitude about them. Find one. Get to know them. They just won't admire you the way 3's need people to do so, be prepared for rejection.
    The reason why I came to this forum, is because I do know manny of them. 80 %. The real world is full of Sensors, the Internet is the place where NTs should be a majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechnick View Post
    The reason why I came to this forum, is because I do know manny of them. 80 %. The real world is full of Sensors, the Internet is the place where NTs should be a majority.
    Hmm. What are your thoughts on Feelers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forever View Post
    Well you're in a trap:

    If you stay here. You'll just end up having to respect everybody.

    If you go to those fb purist groups. Trust me, those sensor mistypes wear intuitive hoods. Or intuitors.

    Pick your poison. A lot of people seem to take others by face value. So be it.

    I much prefer this site, and that's healthy thinking to accept those of who they are. You know I love self-aware sensors. And I dislike non self-aware sensors who disguise themselves as intuitives. But that's my individual problem it seems.

    Can't have everything I suppose.
    This is what I call a mature and a wellcoming posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaumaturgicTheorist View Post
    Well, you are, by default. Several people here have already pointed that out.

    Then again, I mistyped as an N for a couple of years for fear of confronting the truth.
    Maybe you consider yourself that, but I certainly don't. If that is the case, perhaps I am mistyped then. I still have doubts over my type because I do relate to both INFPs and ISFPS, but I think I'm just a little more on the sensing side. Again, sensing and intuition are all on a spectrum, so it seems a bit presumptuous to just automatically assume someone is a simpleton based on their type. All I know is I sure feel like an alien too, and I definitely am not someone who just follows the "rules" of life and doesn't question anything.
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