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    Senior Member Uytuun's Avatar
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    Thumbs up INTJs, how do you deal with/feel about Te?

    Me: high Ni, not so great Te (hence the lowercase j - for some reason I still feel like NT, but it's the dealing with the outer world that indicates weak Te. This is less about the abstract thinking Ni-Te team than about Te in everyday life)

    To me, using Te is often very exhausting, but also quite rewarding at times. I have this tendency to hoard stuff I have to do and make it a Te day and inevitably, I'll curse the advent of such days. On the other hand, I also have really productive days during which I get a load of stuff done and that seems to energise me. All in all, I would say that I turn on the Te engine very reluctantly, but then run with it quite nicely for a certain amount of time. I notice that I'm more Ni-Te during the day and more Ni(-Ne) at night or during holidays etc...it is my preferred modus operandi and the more whimsical and free Ni(-Ne) combination is more energising than the Ni-Te one, but I can only operate in it when the constraints of everyday life have been met with Te.

    I guess it's a bit of a necessary evil to me in this capacity.

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    I ask because the question is begged: Why exactly don't you think you're INFJ?

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    Lack of Fe would be one.

    I notice some people tend to type Ni-heavy INTJs as INFJs. Or INTPs because the perceiving function is most obvious.

    Do I strike you as INFJ?

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    I test high Fi, Ne, and Ni and I tend to have similar reactions to positive use of Te.
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    I feel similarly about Te. My best-developed functions are invariably introverted ones (exception being Si), and my best-developed extraverted function is Ne. That's why I've had so much trouble typing myself (I was stuck somewhere between INTJ and INTP, with Ni and Ti being my strongest functions).

    When I'm with people I tend to be a lot more Ne-focussed. It's much easier to get along with people that way. I really enjoy brainstorming with other people and engaging in random silliness. Sometimes (when my work requires it), I sit down and think about ideas and possibilities using my Ti/Ne - which is really enjoyable, but hardly the way that I normally function.

    The very extraverted Te I drag out when I need to justify something to other people, write a thesis/paper, plan experiments etc. It's tiring because it requires moving out of the mental image into an extraverted space, I think. I'm perfectly fine having the ideas and layout in my head, making perfect sense. I'm less comfortable having to phrase it; give it context so that people understand.

    Another example that I think is relevant is trouble-shooting using the Ni/Te. Most INTPs whom I know in the lab aren't exceptional trouble-shooters, but are good at generating ideas/theories. The postdoc in my lab is completely INTJ, and is one of the best trouble-shooters I know. I'm learning a great deal from him. If something doesn't work, we return to the principles that it should work on, generate possible reasons why it doesn't work, score these based on probability and then design new experiments with good controls to tell us more. The INTPs whom I know generally go "oh, it doesn't work. Damnit, let's try this other method" (probably the Ti/Ne).

    I couldn't be anything but an INTJ, because I like to control the variables and find ways to monitor every single stage. I think that's very much a Te function. But I agree, the Ne is very energising normally (I just tend to think of people who brainstorm, come up with tonnes of theories with little follow-through as being flakey).

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    I wish people would stop saying "I have a weak [insert function here]". For every type there is a special order of functions. You must have this order of functions if you're an INTJ: Ni, Te, Fi, Se, Ne, Ti, Fe, Si

    If you do not have this order, you're not an INTJ. It's as simple as that. E.g.: If Fi is stronger than Te, then the order of the functions changes and you become another type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    I wish people would stop saying "I have a weak [insert function here]". For every type there is a special order of functions. You must have this order of functions if you're an INTJ: Ni, Te, Fi, Se, Ne, Ti, Fe, Si

    If you do not have this order, you're not an INTJ. It's as simple as that. E.g.: If Fi is stronger than Te, then the order of the functions changes and you become another type.
    If you assert this, then where do the bazillion people go that don't have their 8 CPs in the right order for any standard type?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    I wish people would stop saying "I have a weak [insert function here]". For every type there is a special order of functions. You must have this order of functions if you're an INTJ: Ni, Te, Fi, Se, Ne, Ti, Fe, Si

    If you do not have this order, you're not an INTJ. It's as simple as that. E.g.: If Fi is stronger than Te, then the order of the functions changes and you become another type.
    Ni, Ti, Te, Fi, Se, Ne, Si, Fe -- Okay, well since I don't fit the INTJ thing, and I'm definitely Ni-dominant, then I must be INFJ, but wait! My Fe's the bottom of the barrel. Well, let's try INTP then, eh? Er, no, my function order's messed up for that too. Hm, if I tweaked it a bit, perhaps I could come out ENTJ... Okay, fine, if I tweaked it a lot...

    Bah, screw it! *morphs into ESFP*


    In response to the OP, I don't often feel drained by it, but that's because I spend enough time alone to compensate. I think the issue some IxTJs have with Te is that Te is a very demanding function, and it can be draining for an introvert to use it for too long. I wouldn't be suprised if extroverts sometimes felt drained by it as well. I tend to like it, though. Especially after I've had plenty of time to not use it, because the minute it's kicked up, I kind of get on a production binge, and suddenly everything that needed to be done is taken care of. It's a good feeling, though it can get out of hand if I let it.
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    This is some weird stuff, because Te is what seems to get me through everything. I'm still really introverted, though.

    Not really my place to post, but just so that this post doesn't feel totally unproductive, during the points of the day when my Te wears out, I do activities like watching videos and reading stories.

    Please, continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    I wish people would stop saying "I have a weak [insert function here]". For every type there is a special order of functions. You must have this order of functions if you're an INTJ: Ni, Te, Fi, Se, Ne, Ti, Fe, Si

    If you do not have this order, you're not an INTJ. It's as simple as that. E.g.: If Fi is stronger than Te, then the order of the functions changes and you become another type.
    Wrong.

    If you're an Ni dominant and use Fi and Te, you're an INTJ. Even if Fi is more active than Te.

    What other type would you call that person?

    (I know a lot of INJs that seem to be quite comfortable with their tertiary function, even more so than their auxiliary. Introverted functions are safer, and are in closer affinity with the dominant.)

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