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  1. #41
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    While I like INTPs as architects and designers, I disagree. They assume you can read their minds (which I can to some extent) and they have a distinct tendency to go off on crazy inefficient tangents. They also love to give you vague instructions (after all, everyone knows how this works, I do!) and expect you to recall hundreds of algorithms by their given names. Documentation tends to be poorer with more gaps.

    However, the positive that makes it all worth it is the fact that, yes, the idea tends to be sound, and when the complex one they gave you turns out to be a dud, inefficient, missing some step, or otherwise, they will be able to either tell you what is missing or give you numerous pre-thought-out options. They're really poor at selecting from those options, too, unlike us INTJs, who have an innate sense for what is the best solution. I can't even count how many times my mentor asked me to come help him with a problem where he had 3-5 or more possible solutions to the same problem, but he couldn't choose one without some outside help. Usually good discussions, too, because he usually found the vast majority of positives, negatives, and pitfalls for each, but then he also often missed something glaring in one or two because it was a much more interesting way to do it and the question of whether it was possible or if it would work never crossed his mind.
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    Noah's known at work for his thorough and meticulous documentation. And he's very decisive. See, I can make a sweeping generalization based on one INTP too.
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    I know it would be hopeless to argue with you, as it would be just like discussions with my mother.

    Oh yes, there were some great ones in Vegas, too, but I'm not supposed to speak of what happened in Vegas. I could mention recent events at work, too, but it's also pointless.
    I 100%, N 88%, T 88%, J 75%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    I suppose the military is very NTJ, but as far as germanic...who knows.
    Russian marching music while growing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Noah's known at work for his thorough and meticulous documentation. And he's very decisive. See, I can make a sweeping generalization based on one INTP too.
    *Cheers on Ivy from the back of the room*
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    I have to admit that I am food for the theory that INTJs are predisposed to Nazi fetichism.

    Lucky for me, not only is my SO German, he, um, manifests an irreverent attitude toward his national heritage.

    ... Unlike his mother (b. 1948), who despite being ENFP could not think of an appropriate response when I obliviously told her that I find that pretty much any sentence in French sounds like a love poem while pretty much any sentence in German sounds like a declaration of war... Try explaining how that could be intended as a compliment.

    That reminds me, can the Germans here recommend any good German MBTI books and internet sites?

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    My Jewish family name is Reichenbach.

    Does that help!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    My Jewish family name is Reichenbach.

    Does that help!?
    not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    I have to admit that I am food for the theory that INTJs are predisposed to Nazi fetichism.

    Lucky for me, not only is my SO German, he, um, manifests an irreverent attitude toward his national heritage.

    ... Unlike his mother (b. 1948), who despite being ENFP could not think of an appropriate response when I obliviously told her that I find that pretty much any sentence in French sounds like a love poem while pretty much any sentence in German sounds like a declaration of war... Try explaining how that could be intended as a compliment.

    That reminds me, can the Germans here recommend any good German MBTI books and internet sites?
    "An exception to this rule is the interesting material authored decades ago by Marie Louise von Franz, who argued that Nazi Germany was the product of an introverted iNtuitive culture (leaning distinctly toward INTJ)"

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    I'm interested in Nazism and WWII and so forth, but I don't really hate a particular group.

    I notice a lot of Jewish families have German last names, even if they're from Poland, Hungary, or Russia. Are their last names actually Yiddish?

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