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    My husband (an NT) encourages independence and critical thought, as do I. But he also encourages respect, consideration, responsibility, etc, as do I. Make of that what you will.
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    I wouldn't promote NT-ness per se, because one of my kids is an ExFJ and the other one is ENTP same as me, so I'd effectively be making one kid feel like they were inferior for not possessing inherently the qualities her sister does. And she already feels that bad enough, bless her, since little one's a certified genius and she's 'only' above average.

    I do promote the potential good qualities of NT-ness, such as integrity and rational thinking and enquiry, but I promote as much as possible all good qualities, including those NT's find difficult such as empathy, tact and consideration for others.

    It's a simple truth that people who are liked get further in life than people who are just clever but not liked. So whilst I praise them when they do something clever, I also encourage social skills and making an effort to build and maintain a healthy social life. Particularly challenging since little ENTP has Asperger Syndrome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    What role do you have as a parent, never one of guidance?
    Depends. If my kid will need guidance, yes I will give them of course. If my kid doesn't, no.
    I don't precisely know what my role as a parent will be, to be honest. A lot will depend on the personality of my kid.
    One thing I'm sure of, I will try to teach him how to pick up girls, if he will need help. That's something absolutely essential in life, life without women is not really worth living. I'd also like to go with him on some adventures like climbing mountains - if he'll be the type that likes this kind of thing. I am not a strong believer in education so if he thinks that school is a complete waste of time - I will likely agree with him.

    If your child were to begin to develop an irrational or self destructive ideology what would you do?
    That's a bit of a different story: not having NT-alike interests is not equal to developing self-destructive habits. Of course in that case I would try to make my son change his mind. Unfortunately, I've seen such situations coming out of very happy families: I'm of the opinion that predisposition to that type of behavior is mostly genetic.
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    It depends on how you define NTness.
    If my child is an obvious "SF", I wouldn't try to change that.
    However, I would encourage my child to enjoy learning and intellectual exploration and to be independent.
    It is a lie that only NT's enjoy such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    Will you try to promote NTness in your children?
    My child is already NTJ. I didn't promote it, that's for sure. My child is a mini-me. Aside from gender differences, he looks exactly like me (but with straight blond hair instead of crazy curly auburn hair). He walks like me. He talks like me. He has my impatience and low tolerance for BS. And he's probably going to end up being smarter than me.

    However, we both agree that we can't live together because we drive each other insane. We do well when we visit for a week or two at a time, but anything more than that requires a referee. :P

    If I'd had my preference, I'd have had a child that I could live with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinkerbell View Post
    I totally agree, let the child be what the child is and stop placing one type over another in superiority. Parents influence their children, but they need to allow them the persoanl freedom to develop into themselves and not beomce mini me's. Perahps a read of Keirseys section on Pygmailon syndrom may be helpful at explain how disctructive the mini me approach can be

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    And then there are people who get mini-me's without trying for one. :P

    I almost believe that a certain amount of personality is hereditary. My grandmother and my father were very much alike, and didn't always live together during his childhood because they couldn't get along and communicate effectively. My father and I were very much alike, and it took my mother refereeing when we'd both gotten our backs up. And now there's my son and me, also very much alike and unable to live together.

    And, obviously, family gatherings were great fun, as all four of us were there together. :P Fortunately, it was a big enough family for us to have buffers for when we got on each other's nerves. There wasn't a lack of love, but there was certainly a lot of communication and temperament issues to deal with.
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