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[INTJ] Has anyone called you a sore loser?
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EffEmDoubleyou
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They totally cheat in Madden football. If you're like 10-0 or 11-0 in your season, the computer's going to pick one game where NOTHING goes right for you and you get destroyed no matter what you do, just so you don't go undefeated. A sportswriter I like calls it the "No F***ing Way" game.
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Depends who the opponent is and what I've lost at.
If I lose a game of chess, even to a 9 year old child (as I regularly do), I laugh and say well done. I've long understood why it is that I suck at chess - short attention span and also, EP is very strong in me, so if what I'm working at has no continuous use in the external world, I quickly lose interest and can't really engage in the first place.
If I lose an argument because someone's reasoning and knowledge was superior to mine, I usually give way pretty graciously.
If I 'lose' an argument - i.e. it's over and I'm perceived to have lost - because the other person stamped their foot and screamed and said I was horrible but didn't actually listen to or understand my points, then again, I can be pretty gracious. I used to find it very frustrating and proceed to despise that person, but now I let it go cos I figure, y'know, life can't be much fun being them. And I've learned with people like that there is no way to win an argument unless you agree with them. So, I let it go.
BUT sometimes my graciousness can be deceptive. I shake the dude's hand and say well done and smile, but inside I'm hauling myself over hot coals and completely tormented and crazy mad at myself for losing and desperate to give it another crack.
If I lose a game of chess, even to a 9 year old child (as I regularly do), I laugh and say well done. I've long understood why it is that I suck at chess - short attention span and also, EP is very strong in me, so if what I'm working at has no continuous use in the external world, I quickly lose interest and can't really engage in the first place.
If I lose an argument because someone's reasoning and knowledge was superior to mine, I usually give way pretty graciously.
If I 'lose' an argument - i.e. it's over and I'm perceived to have lost - because the other person stamped their foot and screamed and said I was horrible but didn't actually listen to or understand my points, then again, I can be pretty gracious. I used to find it very frustrating and proceed to despise that person, but now I let it go cos I figure, y'know, life can't be much fun being them. And I've learned with people like that there is no way to win an argument unless you agree with them. So, I let it go.
BUT sometimes my graciousness can be deceptive. I shake the dude's hand and say well done and smile, but inside I'm hauling myself over hot coals and completely tormented and crazy mad at myself for losing and desperate to give it another crack.
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Yes. I've been called a sore loser many times.
When I was a child up until about fourteen or so, I handled losses very badly. No always losing once, but definitely if I lost two or three times in a row. I would become terribly flustered and hostile, usually cursed, growled, stomped, and was likely to drive people away from playing the game. Throwing and object wasn't out of the question either.
Today, I still have a competitive streak that I try to keep subdued, because I think it's a very unhealthy thing. Losing still makes me upset, actually, but I turn it all inwards now. When I lose, I'm disapponted in myself. That's always been the problem, regardless of how I show it.
When I was a child up until about fourteen or so, I handled losses very badly. No always losing once, but definitely if I lost two or three times in a row. I would become terribly flustered and hostile, usually cursed, growled, stomped, and was likely to drive people away from playing the game. Throwing and object wasn't out of the question either.
Today, I still have a competitive streak that I try to keep subdued, because I think it's a very unhealthy thing. Losing still makes me upset, actually, but I turn it all inwards now. When I lose, I'm disapponted in myself. That's always been the problem, regardless of how I show it.
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I passionately enjoy games and debates, of course, but I never particularly was called a sore loser. Or rather, only when I like to, when I feel in a playful mood... but this is only a comedy.
I tend to enjoy games and debates mostly for their own sake, not for their outcomes. To win is easy (especially for me), to properly lose is an art. If my challenger has enjoyed jousting with me, usually I'm fine.
I tend to enjoy games and debates mostly for their own sake, not for their outcomes. To win is easy (especially for me), to properly lose is an art. If my challenger has enjoyed jousting with me, usually I'm fine.
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I never really perceive that I lost an argument, even if the other person thinks that I did 
Anything else I couldn't care less about- I have the attention span of a gnat and easily find something else to preoccupy me whenever I lose at something (whatever that is- I just flat out don't care about winning in many cases as long as I'm amused!)
Anything else I couldn't care less about- I have the attention span of a gnat and easily find something else to preoccupy me whenever I lose at something (whatever that is- I just flat out don't care about winning in many cases as long as I'm amused!)
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In terms of debate and arguments id say I'm actually pretty gracious in losing, during i'm inwardly focused and somewhat emotionally invested. I really value sound reasoning and intelligence, so in the event of a loss I'm actually somewhat happy because I learned something new and also figured out some weaknesses of my own.
In the physical realm though, I'm probably the worst loser (all is fair in love and war right?) but it's usually a short intense anger that again is directed more inwardly. I think that it's sort of a Jon Mccenroe type drive that is expressed more positively externally but maybe just as negative internally.
In the physical realm though, I'm probably the worst loser (all is fair in love and war right?) but it's usually a short intense anger that again is directed more inwardly. I think that it's sort of a Jon Mccenroe type drive that is expressed more positively externally but maybe just as negative internally.
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Well, there's a situation that can make me quite upset, it's when you're in a team game, and that someone in your own team plays so bad he/she eventually ruins all our efforts.
During those moments, I tend to be less understanding. :steam: But when I'm only the only one involved, I usually don't care about losing.
During those moments, I tend to be less understanding. :steam: But when I'm only the only one involved, I usually don't care about losing.
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I am a very gracefull loser because I understand peoples need to cheat. I try not to hold it against them though because thats how I roll...... very cool.
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note to self: go to a star wars convention and start a competition just to see them kill each other.
Never been called a sore loser, and I don't think I ever have been a sore loser. People used to get annoyed by my constant attempts to get them to let me redo one of my moves that I made five turns beforehand, but over time that's transformed into inward criticism. "I can't believe I did that" is my new "Wait, I forgot to do something last turn".
I have an ENTJ friend who's a huge sore loser though. He even gets sore when his opposition doesn't try hard enough to make his presumptuously inevitable win gratifying. He always needs to get the last shot in too. I remember playing "sawdust tag" with him in IA back in high school and he didn't get me once. So, frustrated and covered in sawdust, he went to the back room and filled my backpack with sawdust.
I have an ENTJ friend who's a huge sore loser though. He even gets sore when his opposition doesn't try hard enough to make his presumptuously inevitable win gratifying. He always needs to get the last shot in too. I remember playing "sawdust tag" with him in IA back in high school and he didn't get me once. So, frustrated and covered in sawdust, he went to the back room and filled my backpack with sawdust.
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That's exactly the kind of cheating I'm talking about and that makes me go absolutely crazy :steam: I'll keep on repeating the match until there's a "fair" result.
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It really depends. I HATE to lose at fighting games, and stupid things like that, so I tend to stay away from that sort. boardgames I have NO problem losing I always have fun with them.
When debating, I generally don't feel I've lost anything. If I didn't state my case well enough, it's because I have a lot to learn, in which case I'm more likely to sit and listen to the other person.
If I believe strongly in a subject though, I can be a bit of a brick wall about the whole thing. Even if it didn't make sense to be so stubborn about it, I'd still be.
When debating, I generally don't feel I've lost anything. If I didn't state my case well enough, it's because I have a lot to learn, in which case I'm more likely to sit and listen to the other person.
If I believe strongly in a subject though, I can be a bit of a brick wall about the whole thing. Even if it didn't make sense to be so stubborn about it, I'd still be.
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