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    Yay, ENTP hug *babbles on*.

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    Keep it, wont happen again
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    My INTJ husband is very playful and funny. He uses his INTJness to have fun, whenever he can, provided he is not working full tilt on a goal or p*ssed off! He seems particularly good at using INTJ "action empathy" to do impersonations of others.

    I do sometimes wish he would be more open minded about movies and books. I had a hard time getting him to watch Les Miserables with me. But after he watched it, he really liked it.

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    i didn't read everything, but simply but, J's just like asking "what's the point". INTJ's don't like entertaining things without a clear end, INTP's do. therefore, INTP's become interested in more things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splittet View Post
    Going by this, I am more of an INTP than INTJ... I give my friends way too many music and film tips, and I find basically everything myself. I feel I annoy people and my friends with all my tips and that I overwhelm them, but I just want to share all my fantastic discoveries and to have someone to discuss them with... :P And yeah, I ask often if people have seen or heard this or that... Of late I actually have been a bit uncertain about whether I am J or P, but I really can't imagine Ti being my primary function, since I associate that with precise thought, and my head is rather messy, not bothering with what I see as details in the logic... Also I identify quite a lot with the pragmatism of Te, and I greatly value especially innovative and unbiased effectiveness.
    Agreed, this description makes me more INTP, but I usually score very high on J (though at times I wonder why cause I feel like a P yet definetly have the mental characteristics of an INTJ).

    I would say it depends on a lot of things beyond being INTP and INTJ for what the OP is describing. I see myself as being a renaissance man at times, trying to master and know as many things as I can. Small details I don't care about though, only the big picture. And I'm always on the pursuit of new things to add to this personal thought process. I like poetry, I like art, I love music, I like museums. And I schedule all these hobbies efficiently as I can and never spend a concentrated time on them unless I feel like I'm lacking (or someone comes along who shows strong interest in the subject and would allow me to discuss ideas and analyze their opinions/thoughts/principles over the subject at hand).

    Quote Originally Posted by SquirrelTao View Post
    My INTJ husband is very playful and funny. He uses his INTJness to have fun, whenever he can, provided he is not working full tilt on a goal or p*ssed off! He seems particularly good at using INTJ "action empathy" to do impersonations of others.

    I do sometimes wish he would be more open minded about movies and books. I had a hard time getting him to watch Les Miserables with me. But after he watched it, he really liked it.
    Kiersey would say: Well developed INTJ husband you have there!

    YAH! I, and I'm sure other INTJ's, can relate here.

    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    i didn't read everything, but simply but, J's just like asking "what's the point". INTJ's don't like entertaining things without a clear end, INTP's do. therefore, INTP's become interested in more things.
    While some of your views on what INTJ's want, i.e. "clear end", are correct, I would completely argue against us not being interested in things like that. In fact I think it creates the opposite as we want to find ways to apply everything to life. Just when we think we are satisfied we move on to the next challenge. We are problem solving, challenge driven, NUTS. This will include art, poetry, music, etc... However, once we have a clear end, of some point, we don't forget it, and are VERY interesting it talking about our "solutions", even though they may seem crazy.

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    I actually find the two INTJs in my life quite interesting to talk to. They may not talk all the time, but neither do I.
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    This discussion made it to the INTJforums. I wonder if torches are being lit.

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    Based on personal experiences as an INTP....

    If either xNTP or xNTJ tend to be shy, they won't come out as someone interesting. Take note, the sensors don't really have that much a clear line of distinction in distinguising one rational from the other.

    However given an outspoken xNTP versus an outspoken xNTJ, I'll give a bit of an edge to the xNTP.

    In my personal observation, the only time a xNTJ becomes really glaringly interesting is when he suffers from a bit of personal insecurity that he needs to jack up his J funtion in an outspoken manner to prove that he's right, often times creating a persona of being an intellectual ass.

    Not that xNTP doesn't suffer from the same thing. Actually, any NT can really make anyone look stupid.

    The reason why xNTP can have an edge is because of the P function, defined by the Ne/Ti axis.

    Ne/Ti is rare, even among the geek realm.

    You can have that many rationals having a strong Si because that's what they're socially conditioned to have. And you can have so many rationals having a strong Te, because that's the 'academic' way of thinking.

    In this sense, we can imagine an xNTJ as an evolved xSTJ because it's like a progression from being the soldierboy to the commander-in-chief.

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    But xNTP is a rarity. It's hardly socially conditioned. Ti can hardly be 100% objectified (that's what Te is trying to do, but it realistically represent Ti).

    And when Ne plays with Ti, it comes out as something mystical. Not only it is rare, but is also hardly defineable.

    That's why an outspoken xNTP comes out really interesting, at least in my case. Not necessarily likeable, but then again, it's a rarity.

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    I <3 this thread.

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