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    Default How did you become a "J" (INTJ)

    I have read that the "j" in the INTJ is formed/stems from "obscure reasons".

    As a child, my father had me boxing for 3 years and then raced motocross for 2. Two very independent and ruthless activities....basically had to rely on my fists and balls. This is where I learned to trust my instincts and gained the confidence to implement them.
    "A species of perfection and fantasy"......

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    INTx for most of my life.

    Post-grad, my J digit became necessary as to facilitate interest in applying/working in a non-academic environment.

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    Well, it seemed I had three choices growing up:

    Subject myself to the will of the group and get nothing done

    Assert myself as leader of the group and order them to do stuff, but because they can't follow goddamned orders, get nothing done

    Separate myself from the group and get everything done alone

    I evidently chose the last.
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    Why would the J in an INTJ be formed any differently than other Js? I'm curious as to the reasoning behind the idea.

    Nothing weird happened to me. . . apart from Uncle Melvin.

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    In my case I think that playing a lot of strategy games made me so J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottaprettygal View Post
    Why would the J in an INTJ be formed any differently than other Js? I'm curious as to the reasoning behind the idea.
    If I remember correctly, it had to do with juxtaposing being an introvert with the ability to lead. I admit it is a rather obscure combination. INTJs tend to have confidence though choose to be alone....something along those lines.
    "A species of perfection and fantasy"......

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    Thinking that J-ness formed some day in your evolution as a personality makes sense.

    But that includes that all of your 4 functions adapted that way. I just cant relate J-ness only to an obscure event that needs you to be tough and school your senses. The change from p to J would include a change in thought also. I badly suck at Te, any strategy games bore the hell out of me.

    And furthermore it would need a change from Fe to Fi , that means to loose your good manners in society and become a hopeless romantic for the better part of a definition.

    My conclusion would be, I do not think that one event of one certain kind can blend in your J-ness. I think p-ness or J-ness is formed through a chain of events of different kinds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Thinking that J-ness formed some day in your evolution as a personality makes sense.

    But that includes that all of your 4 functions adapted that way. I just cant relate J-ness only to an obscure event that needs you to be tough and school your senses. The change from p to J would include a change in thought also. I badly suck at Te, any strategy games bore the hell out of me.

    And furthermore it would need a change from Fe to Fi , that means to loose your good manners in society and become a hopeless romantic for the better part of a definition.

    My conclusion would be, I do not think that one event of one certain kind can blend in your J-ness. I think p-ness or J-ness is formed through a chain of events of different kinds.
    I tend to agree all elements are in play. I think the "J" may evolve from a series/years of events. The confidence may stem from reducing the successful parts of past experiences and utilizing them in future scenarios. "What works, works"..... You can never rule out good, old-fashioned IQ...there is no substitute for raw genetic processing.
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    No clue.

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    Because I have a gift of Ni,so I became J...
    Two things fill the mind with ever new and increasing admiration and awe, the more often and steadily we reflect upon them: the starry heavens above me and the moral law within me. --Kant

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