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    You cannot prove God, and you cannot prove atheism. Let's look innto the logic of it. Which seems more likely? A( an all powerful force creating the Earth with a purpose for everything? Or B( the universe randomely generating itself even though there is only a one in 1 billion chance that that could happen, maybe even less of a chance than that
    Everyone needs to decide for themselves, no argumentative bullshit, because there is no way to prove how the universe was created directly. Just focus on this post. It has every ounce of logic one needs to decide. Whether you choose religion or atheism that is your choice, no one else can destroy that.
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    "God is dead", has echoed down three centuries now, but what does it mean?

    Have we discovered a corpse called God? No, there is no literal corpse, rather "God is dead", is a high end metaphor.

    So what does the metaphor mean?

    We get closer to the meaning with the phrase "the book is dead", and so to the corollary "the God of the book is dead".

    But then we are left with the same problem: have we discovered a corpse of the book? And of course "the book is dead" is also not literally true but is another high end metaphor.

    So what does it mean?

    "The book is dead", means that the book is now the content of the internet. And so in that sense the book is no longer our taken for granted environment, but rather the book is now merely the content of the new medium of the internet.

    And as the book has been relegated, so the God of the book has also been relegated.

    This is big news for the three major religions of the Book, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Their God of the Book is now dead and replaced by the God of the electron.

    Of course they find this impossible to accept and so keep on arguing and arguing about the death of God, but it is only the death of their God, the God of the Book, whereas the new electric God rises everyday across the world on the internet.

    In fact each one of us is engaging in an act of worship the moment we log on.

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    That wasn't what Nietzsche meant when he said "God is dead." He meant the retreat of religion as a source of authority.
    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    That wasn't what Nietzsche meant when he said "God is dead." He meant the retreat of religion as a source of authority.
    Quite so.

    But it is not religion that has retreated as a source of authority, rather the God of the Book has died, and today we worship the God of the internet.

    So it appears to the Peoples of the Book that religion has retreated when it is never stronger and now encompasses the Peoples of the Book, i.e., Judaism, Christianity and Islam, as well as Hindu India, Confucius China, and tribal Africa. The God of the internet is omnipresent and omnipowerful. And we worship our God everyday.

    For instance, yesterday in Melbourne, Australia, a believer in the God of the Book, tried to assert that "God is Great", with explosives, but the God of the internet sees all and knows all and intervened and had him arrested.

    So it has become plain for all to see that the God of the Book is no longer great and the God of the internet rules over all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole
    So it has become plain for all to see that the God of the Book is no longer great and the God of the internet rules over all.
    Greater than both these faiths is the religion of disenchantment. Most people do not go far enough down that path.

    The new superstitions are not much better than the old.

    Forgive me, I picked up Spinoza: A Short Introduction from the library.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    Greater than both these faiths is the religion of disenchantment.
    Ah yes, the world falls silent as we cease to chant to the God of the Book, but as one chant falls silent another takes up the slack - cyber space is one long chant to the God of the Internet. We are all deeply and profoundly enchanted by the God of the Internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Ah yes, the world falls silent as we cease to chant to the God of the Book, but as one chant falls silent another takes up the slack - cyber space is one long chant to the God of the Internet. We are all deeply and profoundly enchanted by the God of the Internet.
    This is your God of the Internet:

    [Trump's] rhetoric is not an abuse of power. In the same way that it's also not against the law to do a backflip off of the roof of your house onto your concrete driveway. It's just mind-numbingly stupid and, to say the least, counterproductive. - Bush did 9-11


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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    This is your God of the Internet:

    Every moon has its dark side and the internet is no exception.

    We are all enchanted by the God of the internet and appalled by the Devil of the Internet.

    The Devil of the Internet finds his home in Utah, USA, in a vast facility of the NSA, putting most of us under permanent surveillance, making the Big Brother of George Orwell look like an amateur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Every moon has its dark side and the internet is no exception.

    We are all enchanted by the God of the internet and appalled by the Devil of the Internet.

    The Devil of the Internet finds his home in Utah, USA, in a vast facility of the NSA, putting most of us under permanent surveillance, making the Big Brother of George Orwell look like an amateur.


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    Thread moved from Welcomes and Introductions at the OP's request.

    Also some petty sniping was removed. Do stay on topic, and be civil.
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