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    Pain in the ass to negotiate with if your idea goes against anything they put value in.

    Pleasure to deal with on a passing basis.

    Very reliable environment creators. If you can meet their vibe then you can rely in its stability, except ESTJ as they like to explode at seemingly nothing from time to time.

    Overall I find most SJs stressful to deal with as I feel like I'm on a razors edge. Of course once I'm in the accepted group it's much easier.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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    This is a stupid question. So much of it depends on the individual
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygnus View Post
    They're just more boring versions of NJs, just much easier to please.


    I get along exceptionally well with ESFJs I meet, but not a single ESTJ in my life.
    Aren't you ESFJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCheeseBurgerKing View Post
    This is a stupid question. So much of it depends on the individual
    This. Isn't SJ the most common of the temperaments? So this is like asking, "what do you think of most people?"

    I adore my ESFJ sister. She's very funny, intelligent, caring, and doesn't suffer fools gladly.

    I can't stand my ISTJ former coworker. He was humorless, dull, and overly attached to procedures for their own sake.

    Most I probably don't have an opinion about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by great_bay View Post
    Aren't you ESFJ?
    Possibly.

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    The variance between individuals is too high to make any meaningful generalizations, but I've found they tend to vacillate between being super chill and super paranoid. I wouldn't call them "conscientious" per se, but they are worried of potential consequences.
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    I have an ISTJ friend, a ISFJ friend, and my dad is an ESFJ. ( I'm an INTx) The ISTJ friend is funny and modest, but can be a bit distant and repetative. The ISFJ friend has a crush on me, and she is sweet, affectionate, thinks of me as higher than her, but can get jealous and clingy. My dad is hardworking, tough, funny, and puts family before himself. And my mom had a music teacher that was like a mother to her, and I'm pretty sure she was an ESFJ, but she died before she ever took a test. She was motherly, witty, ambitious, and social. All in all, they are pretty great, but there are a few things that annoy me about them. And for the ISTJ and ISFJ... there always seems to be a feeling of dishonesty around them, but maybe its just me.

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    Oh yeah, also my grandad is an ISTJ, I'm pretty sure. He is serious and realistic... but can be humorless, forcefull, and explosive. He doesn't like messing around or day dreaming. There arnt any types I hate, honestly. (Although I can be a bit resentful towards ISTP's)

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    Highlander totally thinks I'm an SJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark View Post
    Highlander totally thinks I'm an SJ.
    I don't think he's the only one. Come, join us! Leave the weirdos and become a normo.

    It's what you really want! It's probably also why you feel as if your opinion and thinking is rare here; because there aren't many SJ's on the forum.
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    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
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