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    It's their Ni and Fi combination that makes them enigmatic. Their Ni gives them lots of insights that seems to appear from nowhere, while the Fi in them makes them hold back from expressing their opinions.

    Hmm nevermind, I think I will come back to this thread again later, I am so sleepy right now and I can't write much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destiny View Post
    It's their Ni and Fi combination that makes them enigmatic. Their Ni gives them lots of insights that seems to appear from nowhere, while the Fi in them makes them hold back from expressing their opinions.

    Hmm nevermind, I think I will come back to this thread again later, I am so sleepy right now and I can't write much.
    INTJ holding back an opinion?

    I guess that might happen if they are scared of you judging them and being afraid of how you see them and thus holding back in that way(and most likely in many major aspects of their personality as well), but in those cases its not the real person you see, and most likely they never showed you their true nature in many other ways as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    INTJ holding back an opinion?
    That'd be a first.

    Actually, sometimes I am reluctant to share my thoughts, if I know that they probably won't be well received. It's sort of a Catch-22 for INTJs. People complain that they can't tell what you're thinking, but when you do say what you're thinking, people complain that you're too blunt and insensitive. You can never win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadOctopus View Post
    That'd be a first.

    Actually, sometimes I am reluctant to share my thoughts, if I know that they probably won't be well received. It's sort of a Catch-22 for INTJs. People complain that they can't tell what you're thinking, but when you do say what you're thinking, people complain that you're too blunt and insensitive. You can never win.
    There is a way. You need to scare the sort of people away who doesent like your opinions by saying them out loud. Then only the strongest will survive your company and then you can freely express your opinions and win
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTP View Post
    There is a way. You need to scare the sort of people away who doesent like your opinions by saying them out loud. Then only the strongest will survive your company and then you can freely express your opinions and win
    Pretty much. I'm quite willing to keep my opinions to myself in the interests of not causing needless fuss or conflict. If someone asks, however, all bets are off and they can take what they get. It will be civil and as constructive as I can make it, but it will be completely candid.
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    What type of INTJ's are you communicating with? INTJ's are easy to understand. They are just so blunt, it goes over most people heads. Since society has taught most to "Read between the lines."

    Dont trust INTj's body language
    Ignore their tone of voice
    just take their words literally. It's seriously not that hard.

    Now the FJ's? (or is it xSxJ. I mix them up) now THAT'S hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilrubberduckie View Post
    What type of INTJ's are you communicating with? INTJ's are easy to understand. They are just so blunt, it goes over most people heads. Since society has taught most to "Read between the lines."

    Dont trust INTj's body language
    Ignore their tone of voice
    just take their words literally. It's seriously not that hard.

    Now the FJ's? (or is it xSxJ. I mix them up) now THAT'S hard.
    Hmm... I think Ni, by definition, is enigmatic (forming a deeply personal, abstract interpretation of life). INJs may be direct and concise at times, but still dwell primarily in Ni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opal View Post
    Hmm... I think Ni, by definition, is enigmatic (forming a deeply personal, abstract interpretation of life). They may be concise and direct at times, but still dwell primarily in Ni.
    and? When they do choose to speak, it is understandable. It's not like they talk in Shakespearean every time they open their pretty mouths. Or alien.

    INTJ's arent the type to bullshit. Straight to the point. You can easily see it through conversation. It's not like they say ONE thing but they mean something completely different and expect you to understand what they are trying to get through with body language, tone, and stupid difficult rules society builds with ways to converse with people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilrubberduckie View Post
    and? When they do choose to speak, it is understandable. It's not like they talk in Shakespearean every time they open their pretty mouths. Or alien.

    INTJ's arent the type to bullshit. Straight to the point. You can easily see it through conversation. It's not like they say ONE thing but they mean something completely different and expect you to understand what they are trying to get through with body language, tone, and stupid difficult rules society builds with ways to converse with people.
    Ah, I think Te/Fi make for directness and honesty in communication. Peering into one's mind might prove more difficult, though, because it's less anchored in physical happenings than other types'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opal View Post
    Ah, I think Te/Fi make for directness and honesty in communication. Peering into one's mind might prove more difficult, though, because they're less anchored in physical reality than other types'.
    Why would put yourself through the torture of peering through ANYONE'S mind when talking to them? No matter how hard you try to put yourself in someone elses shoes, the shoe is still not going to fit perfectly. Why bother? More hassle then worth.
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