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[ENTP] ENTP: To hug or hit?

entropie

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He does sound like an ENTP, they prefer consistency in emotions.

I think you just do get thinks wrong here. It may be true that eNTp thrive for harmony in emotions but that is not a personality trait, but a temper thing. I myself hate harmony, because it is the end of progress.

I like challenge and good fights + betterment sex with my loved one. I do not have to constantly fight with her, but I do not like constant harmony either.

Furthermore dwigie said "he hated people that were too emotional". I cant possibly imagine an eNTp would do that. We hate rigidy in thought, but we do not love emotionally consistent people. It is totally unimportant if someone is emotional or not. It is his idea that counts.

I've noted that sometimes ENTPs tend to move quickly from person to person like in dating, but when they take you as a friend or make a deeper connection they are truly loyal. I'll support that idea.

I want to answer that with a simple sentence: you are wrong. eNTp do not switch from person to person in their intrest and love. Fe is our third function after all that means, we have to invest high energy to fall in love at all.

That is just plainly wrong and a miscalculation and misinterpretation of your perception.
 

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I think you just do get thinks wrong here. It may be true that eNTp thrive for harmony in emotions but that is not a personality trait, but a temper thing. I myself hate harmony, because it is the end of progress.

I like challenge and good fights + betterment sex with my loved one. I do not have to constantly fight with her, but I do not like constant harmony either.

Furthermore dwigie said "he hated people that were too emotional". I cant possibly imagine an eNTp would do that. We hate rigidy in thought, but we do not love emotionally consistent people. It is totally unimportant if someone is emotional or not. It is his idea that counts.



I want to answer that with a simple sentence: you are wrong. eNTp do not switch from person to person in their intrest and love. Fe is our third function after all that means, we have to invest high energy to fall in love at all.

That is just plainly wrong and a miscalculation and misinterpretation of your perception.

This reminds me of Nietzsche...in an odd sort of way, particularly The Advantages and the Disadvantages of History.

Heh heh heh - try to explain the advantages of that to my husband, eh??? *starts grumbling*

Oh, yeah, and I could see where Entropie is coming from in terms of investing a lot of energy. I mean, shit, after bumping into cactuses for so long, you're bound to lose a little energy now and again - but it makes it all that oh so worthwhile when you get a soft little hedgehog who doesn't have her quills all in a tither - not all the time anyway - just often enough to be interesting.
 

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Uoh Nietzsche, what did he say in that book ? Never dared reading him xD
 

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Uoh Nietzsche, what did he say in that book ? Never dared reading him xD

Well, not being very good with details, I cannot offer you any specific quotes, and I'm too lazy to hunt for them. But one of the basic tenants of the book - if I recall correctly - was that it should not be man's greatest desire to achieve peace and/or harmony. He believed that if everyone achieved a state of contentment similar to that which was strived to by the socialists, we would be the unhappiest people in the world. Then, our goal was development and struggle; without this struggle, we would be extremely unhappy.

It was basically a major critique of Marx and his vision. :blush: Hope I remember right from my political philosophy class.
 

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Yeah that sounds good. Maybe he was an eNXp. He died from a split personality disorder, when I remember correctly ? :)
 

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Yeah that sounds good. Maybe he was an eNXp. He died from a split personality disorder, when I remember correctly ? :)

He had some serious mental problems as I recall - but then, all great geniuses usually do. I'm not saying I agree with everything he said, but he was a brilliant man - an independent thinker. Gotta love that with a kind of wry admiration.

I guess a guy like that is a cactus you'd love to be a hedgehog so you can understand him, but damn it to hell, he's a cactus, and he ain't gonna be anything else other than a cactus.
 

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He had some serious mental problems as I recall - but then, all great geniuses usually do. I'm not saying I agree with everything he said, but he was a brilliant man - an independent thinker. Gotta love that with a kind of wry admiration.

I guess a guy like that is a cactus you'd love to be a hedgehog so you can understand him, but damn it to hell, he's a cactus, and he ain't gonna be anything else other than a cactus.

haha, nice insider xD
 

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haha, nice insider xD

;) I really loved this analogy of yours - different, visual, and to the point.

In German you would say, 'prägnant'. And no, that doesn't mean pregnant, folks - but I'm too lazy to look it up..
 

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political theory! man i LOVE that stuff! i'm probably gonna be doing my masters in political theory! i guess that's very ENFP. nietzsche was a complete nutjob though :D. he had some great insights, but he was still a nutjob.
 

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political theory! man i LOVE that stuff! i'm probably gonna be doing my masters in political theory! i guess that's very ENFP. nietzsche was a complete nutjob though :D. he had some great insights, but he was still a nutjob.

Yeah, sweet - I think I was the only one who loved analyzing these crazy farts!!!!

Alas, I spent so much time in my own thoughts in class imagining how I would shake the guy in the cave to WAKE THE HELL UP and there, damn it, THERE IS YOUR SHADOW - THERE IS THE LIGHT - GO TO THE END OF THE CAVE - then I thought how it was so similiar to today when all people are watching their stupid TVs and how that was the new cave, and

OOPS just missed the important thing the professor said. DOH!
 

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hehe xD

there was that time we regulary went to a bar on monday nite. We got home with the first train at 4 am and then after a coffee we had in the first two lessons on tuesday politics.

It was no problem to sleep in that class, the teacher was really easy going. Gave everyone grades from A-C in the end xD. But I shot the bird. I felt asleep and began snorting that almost got me into big troubles xDD.

Kinda hard to find excuses in the morning, when you are still drunk of the evening xD
 

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hehe xD

there was that time we regulary went to a bar on monday nite. We got home with the first train at 4 am and then after a coffee we had in the first two lessons on tuesday politics.

It was no problem to sleep in that class, the teacher was really easy going. Gave everyone grades from A-C in the end xD. But I shot the bird. I felt asleep and began snorting that almost got me into big troubles xDD.

Kinda hard to find excuses in the morning, when you are still drunk of the evening xD

DUDE!!!!!!!!!! No sleeping in class. Daydreaming is cool because then the professor actually thinks you are thinking. Sleeping - not so good.

Man, you need to learn how to bullshit people betta. ;) Not the people you care about of course, but rather the people who just seem to scream, "Kiss my ass, bullshit me, and make me think I'm king of the hill."

And then you play the innocent one (and it sooooo works for me because I'm this short cute little girl ;)) and you say, "Oh professor, I've been thinking so much about this, and I was wondering if you can lend your insight because I'm not clear on X. And because you've been paying so much attention in class (muahahhhahhahahahah) they help you. And so VOILA!!!!!!! *ding*
 

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Hehehehe xD

I really managed to get a Tadel once. We were out smoking and came like 15 minutes after the lesson had begun. I thought, because we were having a lesson by someone who wasnt a teacher yet, who was in his practical year, I will enter the room with a secret knock-sign. xD

So I made a secret knock-sign on the door and entered the room. And there was the teacher, the director of the school and two other elderly teacher, because she was having her practical exam on this day. Rofl. I so shot the bird. The Director was screaming for the class book and my name xD. Tadel xDD
 

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Hehehehe xD

I really managed to get a Tadel once. We were out smoking and came like 15 minutes after the lesson had begun. I thought, because we were having a lesson by someone who wasnt a teacher yet, who was in his practical year, I will enter the room with a secret knock-sign. xD

So I made a secret knock-sign on the door and entered the room. And there was the teacher, the director of the school and two other elderly teacher, because she was having her practical exam on this day. Rofl. I so shot the bird. The Director was screaming for the class book and my name xD. Tadel xDD

:-O OMG
 

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I think you just do get thinks wrong here. It may be true that eNTp thrive for harmony in emotions but that is not a personality trait, but a temper thing. I myself hate harmony, because it is the end of progress.

I like challenge and good fights + betterment sex with my loved one. I do not have to constantly fight with her, but I do not like constant harmony either.

Furthermore dwigie said "he hated people that were too emotional". I cant possibly imagine an eNTp would do that. We hate rigidy in thought, but we do not love emotionally consistent people. It is totally unimportant if someone is emotional or not. It is his idea that counts.
By consistancy I didn't mean harmony. More like that the emotion that is being expressed doesn't change every 5 seconds.
I want to answer that with a simple sentence: you are wrong. eNTp do not switch from person to person in their intrest and love. Fe is our third function after all that means, we have to invest high energy to fall in love at all.

That is just plainly wrong and a miscalculation and misinterpretation of your perception.
Okay, that one IS wrong. :doh: Sorry. Feel free to gut and feed me to the wolves or sharks, which ever you prefer. It was just hard for me to understand, mostly why they are still dragging me around as a friend, 5+ years now.. Yup, it's plainly wrong.. misinterpretation *sigh* I guess I'm more like that actually.
 

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I live with one. When I show my "motherly side", she seems to tramp over it, the next day I would get a positive response out of her. It seems that ENTPs respect power, and anything people can give that benifits them. I'm serious, she was on an online game and actually demanded power from a random person. They are so silly.

Sorry to get off topic, to make an ENTP take another look at their actions, stand firm, be serious, and curse the hell out of them. ENTPs aren't that bad. Or just give them money. Bad advice.
 

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In a casual setting, I've been known to come across as rude, offensive, and boisterous. If I'm playing a game of cards, I tend to get bored so I start talking smack. If they don't reciprocate, this bores me even more, so I have the urge to step things up a bit.
Now, this could mean that in such situations I act immature, or that those around me don't understand my flavor of entertainment. I would prefer to play with people's minds than with a deck of cards.

ENTPs have a tendency to test those around them as a way of weeding out competency. If you're being a certain flavor of nice, they may try to make you stand up for yourself by being a little abrasive. Chances are, they don't have anything against you and are actually feeling a little like they are doing you a favor. If you are acting unkind and they start treating you nicer, it could be that they are sort of proud of you for standing up for yourself. But really, this is just conjecture based on flimsy explanations of the situations at hand.

HA! ENTPs are always "Mind Fucking" people around them. I find that they are fun to get drunk with.
 

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It seems that ENTPs respect power, and anything people can give that benifits them.

I'd rather say that ENTPs do not respect power, but their machiavellian instincts tell them to use people who have some as much as they can. They perceive "Power" both as an objective notion (T) and an object of contempt (P). Using power is only a mean, not a goal in itself.
 
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